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RevanXXXIII
08-03-2011, 06:01 AM
What do you think is the perfect moveset for Feral Chaos. Not only his offensive abilities but his Basic ones also.

Seraph Sephiroth
08-03-2011, 07:43 AM
Via dolorosa

ChaosMuramasa
08-03-2011, 07:56 AM
Via dolorosa

Can't forget Brute Force.

RevanXXXIII
08-03-2011, 08:55 AM
Thanks guys! You were a lot of help http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm
Now seriously, any movesete suggestions for the 'Omega and the Alpha'?

*moveset

Yorunightcast
08-03-2011, 09:20 AM
Deus Iratus
Via Dolorosa
Brute Force
Erupt
Raid (Optional)
Ground and Air Dodge
Your ready to spam!

RevanXXXIII
08-03-2011, 09:37 AM
Thank you! So, no blocks huh? What if I equipped Deus Iratus to protect me in the ground and midair block for the air?

Yorunightcast
08-03-2011, 09:58 AM
Thank you! So, no blocks huh? What if I equipped Deus Iratus to protect me in the ground and midair block for the air?
Midair Block is fine but generally your high priority can protect you. Pick whatever air HP attack you want just incase;
Ventus Ire is for assist chases and some nice general use.
Lux Magnus is epic damage, sometimes surprising where it lands, and overall great anti-ground.
Flargo Maximus is just your Melee High attack in air... not very good at all.
I use Lux Magnus as ground is better for HP and I also use Jecht/Kuja which both make it easy to use this.
On those assists, I think Jecht is stronger and makes landing Lux easier, but Kuja lets you use a brave attack if you miss and is better for general use.
Also equiping the Assist Unlock and Brave Depletion Removed abilities are a must.

On a side note you really could win a fight with just Via Dolorosa xD

RevanXXXIII
08-03-2011, 10:44 AM
Yeah, I'm sure you can! :P It just gets boring to spam it over and over again. So you prefer assists. Is an assist build better than an EX build I'm thinking to use for FC? And why?

Major Tom
08-03-2011, 01:51 PM
People don't understand a serious person when they see one...

Free air dash boost may be helpful, due to Feral being one of the slowest dashers in the game. I prefer an assist build over an EX build, but it may be good to have a bit of synergy, as Feral doesn't need Assists to make a finishing hit, his HP game is good enough, so assist should be used for assist change mostly.

Considering you won't be allowed to play Feral online due to some people being unhappy about his OPness, it's best not to make a serious build with anti-air options, mind games etc. you'll want to just stick in what you can.

Like has already been said, disabling blocks is the best way to save CP.

Hope that helps more than "Use Via Dolorosa."

...annoying...

Neo Bahamut
08-03-2011, 03:33 PM
To be fair, you probably SHOULD use Via Dolorosa.

I'd use an EX Build, but that's just because the game kind of heavily nudges you in that direction with him.

Right now, I use the starting abilities (ground block, midair block, air dash, etc.), Disable EX Drain or whatever it's called, that air attack where he chucks flaming blades at people, the lunging ground attack, Lux Magnus, & Via Dolorosa.

Really been a while since I've looked at his abilities.

Zero_Ruzai
08-03-2011, 10:58 PM
People don't understand a serious person when they see one...

Free air dash boost may be helpful, due to Feral being one of the slowest dashers in the game. I prefer an assist build over an EX build, but it may be good to have a bit of synergy, as Feral doesn't need Assists to make a finishing hit, his HP game is good enough, so assist should be used for assist change mostly.

Considering you won't be allowed to play Feral online due to some people being unhappy about his OPness, it's best not to make a serious build with anti-air options, mind games etc. you'll want to just stick in what you can.

Like has already been said, disabling blocks is the best way to save CP.

Hope that helps more than "Use Via Dolorosa."

...annoying...

In their defense, I've used FC online before, and I've won multiple matches in a row (party battle) spamming Via Dolorosa. It's really all he needs on the ground. For the air, pretty much if he has Brute Force and a follow-up assist, he has it made
People don't generally discuss these things since he's pretty much banned as a tournament character and nobody really wants to see a Feral Chaos online. Which, by the way, is the reason why there aren't many threads, and none that are popular either, discussing these aspects.
This is just my two cents

Neo Bahamut
08-03-2011, 11:22 PM
My $0.02 is that it's more interesting than 3 dozen threads about Assist Combos.

Personally, I wouldn't mind fighting a Feral Chaos online. Or anything online, for that matter.

Seraph Sephiroth
08-04-2011, 08:31 AM
I use FC quite a lot (mainly because my friends want to take down the OP character). He only needs via dolorosa, dues iritas (maybe), splinter and brute force to shut down a lot of people completely. All of the disable abilities (unless you're using side by side, in which case forget disable ex gauge lock). And I have flagro maximus and snarl for the hell of it. Like zero, I've won MANY group battles with just brute force and via dolorosa.

Major Tom
08-04-2011, 10:26 AM
Thanks guys! You were a lot of help http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm
Now seriously, any movesete suggestions for the 'Omega and the Alpha'?

*moveset

He doesn't want to know about Via Dolorosa, everyone knows about it, it's not big news.

I don't think he cares that you can win anything with it either.

RevanXXXIII
08-04-2011, 06:32 PM
^This. Thank you Major Tom. And thanks for your advice regarding FC!

Major Tom
08-04-2011, 06:37 PM
No problem, it might be a stretch to equip all the abilities you want, so try to keep only one or two HP and Brave in both air and ground to save CP, I usually keep Quo Vadis as my only Ground HP or Deus Iratus depending on how I feel.

As long as you're not playing Off. (Skill) feel free to add some CP boosting accessories if you haven't already.

Seraph Sephiroth
08-04-2011, 06:55 PM
That's the moveset I have. FC isn't rocket science tom. Quo vidas is pretty useless due to how easy it is to dodge. Dues iritas may have some use but in general via dolorosa is enough to keep anybody away.

RevanXXXIII
08-04-2011, 06:59 PM
They really don't get it...

Zero_Ruzai
08-04-2011, 07:25 PM
No problem, it might be a stretch to equip all the abilities you want, so try to keep only one or two HP and Brave in both air and ground to save CP, I usually keep Quo Vadis as my only Ground HP or Deus Iratus depending on how I feel.

As long as you're not playing Off. (Skill) feel free to add some CP boosting accessories if you haven't already.

From what I've seen, CP boosting accessories work even in the Off ruleset. In fact, I just tried this today and my FC had 510 CP with the Off ruleset.

Quo Vadis (I'm assuming that's FC's ripoff of Demondance, I don't remember all the names offhand) is basically one of those follow-up attacks after an assist. Like Sephiroth's Octaslash, you're not going to just dash up to an opponent and pull it off.

I really don't see what we (I'll assume you mean everyone) don't understand, Revan. If there's a misunderstanding through all this, it's because you're really not being clear.

Major Tom
08-04-2011, 08:08 PM
From what I've seen, CP boosting accessories work even in the Off ruleset. In fact, I just tried this today and my FC had 510 CP with the Off ruleset.

Okay, I've just checked this and it's right, for some reason they aren't disabled, even though when you equip them the "Equipment not allowed" symbol appears.

I think it may be something interesting, however trying it online may end up with you being called a cheater, so use it with caution.

Zero_Ruzai
08-04-2011, 08:10 PM
Can the opponent actually check this online? I don't think they can see your CP, and with the Off ruleset, it'll show you don't have any equipment.

And wow, after reading what you just quoted me on, I sounded horribly redundant lol.

Major Tom
08-04-2011, 08:25 PM
I have absolutely no idea, you're actually the only person I've ever heard say this, and I've only just checked it myself. I can't check if it won't be seen by your opponent when they check your equips and accessories pre-match, but if it can't be seen then oh well, exploit away.

Still, I think the forum should know about this is they don't already. (I could be horribly behind on the times.)

Zero_Ruzai
08-04-2011, 08:30 PM
I was under the impression everyone knew about this already. Although I guess, now that you've mentioned it, I've never heard it brought up either. Someone on IRC may know. Considering FC's CP handicap, this would be good to know if nobody knew of this.

Major Tom
08-04-2011, 08:31 PM
I was under the impression everyone knew about this already. Although I guess, now that you've mentioned it, I've never heard it brought up either. Someone on IRC may know. Considering FC's CP handicap, this would be good to know if nobody knew of this.

You'd have to convince the other player to let you play Feral in the first place. XD

Zero_Ruzai
08-04-2011, 08:35 PM
That would be a predicament, although, this would be handy for all characters. For someone like Gilgamesh that takes up all 6 HP and BRV slots, sometimes, I kind of feel like an extra couple of CP would be nice. 60 extra is a helluva boost, that's for sure.

RevanXXXIII
08-05-2011, 08:01 AM
To answer to your question Zero_Ruzai: What you don't get is that I don't care about Via Dolorosa and Brute Force. I don't need you guys to tell me about these moves. I asked your opinion on a whole moveset for FC and everybody told me about Via Dolorosa as if I didn't know about it. The only one who understood that was Major Tom and my phrase: "They don't get it..." was directed to him.

Zero_Ruzai
08-05-2011, 09:17 PM
Then say "I already know the glory of Via Dolorosa," instead of "They don't get it." Because we don't know if you're new at this, if you think it's a worthless ranged move, if Brute Force isn't "safe" enough. When I read your first post, it seemed like you just decided to pick up FC, and didn't know which moves were considered good and which were considered bad.
Because obviously, if you knew this, there wouldn't be this thread.

RevanXXXIII
08-07-2011, 07:35 AM
Yes, you're right. Sorry for that.