Kuja Build: Hybrid? Ex? Or Assist?

[Aqua]

Good-evening to everyone. I'm still kinda new to this Site. I signed up a little while back,but wasn't very active until just recent. I was on AHP the other night in GB with 3 other players, and one person went Kuja. At first I always just thought of him as very annoying, but he seems like he could be fun to use actually.. So I leveled him up to 100, but now what do I do? :-)

I'm wandering what Build is advisable? A mixture of both, Pure EX, or Pure Assist?

Could you give me Item Recommendations and an Ability-Setup also? I have Lufenian Items also, if those are needed. I haven't gone through Labyrinth though, so anything that requires Labyrinth Playthrough, no thanks. I have no interest in the Labyrinth.

Thank You! :-)

[Cookies]

There isn't really such a thing as a good hybrid build (because there's only Final Attack, but it's got crap stats).

The advantages of Kuja's ex mode probably don't outweigh those of having alot of assist power and it's pretty well established that SbS is broken so my vote goes for assist.

[TheLostSabre]

EX Mode's perk was nerfed in Duodecim. Auto attacking is now low priority which will leave you open very badly since almost anything you do in EX mode can be blocked.

Like Cookie said, SbS is better for Kuja.

[Aqua]

Excuse my cluelessness, but what's "SBS"? :-/
So since I should go Assist Build, what Abilities / Accessories would you suggest?
Thanks.

[Nexus_Nocturnal]

Side by Side is an accessory that boosts your Assist when you land an HP attack.

I say go with a hybrid. Kuja can build assist easily sense he is good with pressure. You'll want the EX for a good EX Revenge. Make sure you get some form of Dismay Shock on you so you don't get Ex Revenged yourself after an HP attack.

[Dante MHKING]

i´ll have to disagree with you.

There are indeed good hybrid builds. and imo sbs is not very good for kuja since the only reliable hp attack he has is flarestar.
I think you guys dont really understand how exmode is meant to be in duodecim
if your opponent has assist bars and you start a combo you go ex he loses his bars.. then you combo into your hp attacks (with crazy brv rape) and burst after it hits... this will probably break him.
you dont really fight in exmode.. its just for 1 crazy combo and/or to delete the opponents assist gauge...

anyway i would use something like this... (equip kujas exclusive weapon btw)

Thats my cloud setup you might have to tweak it a little bit.... (remember cloud is not kuja lol)

if i fight someone like zidane who probably has sbs i use judgment of lufenia and if my opponent may have a hybrid build i use seal of lufenia as set bonus

Lufenian Judgment/Seal

Muscle Belt
Hyper Ring
Battle Hammer
Large Gap in HP
Summon Unused (You)
Summon Unused (Opp)
Pre-EX Mode
Pre-EX Revenge
After 30 Seconds
After 30 Seconds

kuja could maybe equip muscle belt too due to strike energy being his strongest attack but i dont know lol and the summon unused stuff is preference since i dont activate my summon in casuals and my opponents usually dont activate them too

anyway with that set you have a good chance of going ex once during a match (you might not too but its still better than sbs imo)
oh yeah and also if you wonder why i have pre ex and pre ex revenge... its because if u get the chance to go ex it will probably be the end of the fight.... or close to the end... so its a great multiplier

[Nexus_Nocturnal]

All of Kuja's attacks are magic based, so you'd want an earring instead of a muscle belt.

You should also use accessories that boost wall rush BRV damage, sense Kuja can do a lot of wall rushing.

[Dosito]

All of Kuja's attacks are magic based, so you'd want an earring instead of a muscle belt.

You should also use accessories that boost wall rush BRV damage, sense Kuja can do a lot of wall rushing.


Aren't the only ways to wr with Kuja fs and chase hp attacks? Just two options?
Wait nvm u said brv hits. My bad

[Dante MHKING]

nexus i tested some stuff and my results were that wallrush boosting is not as important in this game as damage boosting... tested it with clouds slashing blow... the first was wallrush with hyper ring and muscle belt the second was with booster and muscle belt

both had 5.0 multiplier i think and the booster set did a little bit more damage but it was really only a little bit lol

edit: isnt kujas air assist attack physical? since its melee?

[Nexus_Nocturnal]

Also, this is just me, but I like to use the extra CP from not equipping a ground move set to get the abilities that will let you equip heavy armor, shields, and helmets. The extra DEF you get for heavy gear is wonderful, and the extra bonus to physical defense with Maximilian is beautiful. If you're fighting a mage you might want to equip a Rainbow Rob instead. A single dismay shock accessory is really all you need unless you are attached to luf gear or you want an extra accessory.

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nexus i tested some stuff and my results were that wallrush boosting is not as important in this game as damage boosting... tested it with clouds slashing blow... the first was wallrush with hyper ring and muscle belt the second was with booster and muscle belt

both had 5.0 multiplier i think and the booster set did a little bit more damage but it was really only a little bit lol

edit: isnt kujas air assist attack physical? since its melee?

A little bit more is sometimes all you need. If you have all three equipped then it is better :P

All of Kuja's attacks are magical, even the melee ones.

[Dante MHKING]

well but the a little bit was just that 1 combo that wall rushed... that means if you wallrush every time you might do more damage but if you dont the other will be stronger

and take in mind slashing blows last strike that wallrushes is really powerful (25) and kujas combos involve more weaker hits so id really just drop that booster and go with earring hyper ring a battle hammer and maybe a dismay shock if you dont like seal of lufenia set and your opponent has no sbs

[kewldude475]

Ummm, you'll want a hybrid build. You get one by equipping a White Gem. and/or White Drops. If you wanna have a better one, then Equip Heaven's Cloud (the Katana), and Tenacious attacker. Oh, and of course, the drops/gems.

[Zeitgeist]

I play Assist Only Kuja since Duodecim. He can be blocked way too easy in EX, that makes him quite vulnerable.
I use CoD as Assist, she is quite useful for comboing. Remote Flare is Kujas godlike interuption attack, so usually CoD can be kept charged until there is a situation u need her for a decent combo.

[DZXtreme]

How well can Kuja absorb ex on his own? I like an assist build for him but with all of the talk on how good ex is for him Ill try a hybrid, can he equip katanas? Or use have to use an ability to make him use it?

[Dart]

Kuja has the potential to be the most damaging character in the game with his base attack stat of 50 on three of his brv attacks. With this in mind, a nice setup would be a damage build with depletions.

[SpryStrikerTidus]

Kuja has the potential to be the most damaging character in the game with his base attack stat of 50 on three of his brv attacks. With this in mind, a nice setup would be a damage build with depletions.

This is completely true. Kuja honestly has no need of Assist OR EX. Give him a straight up damage set; maybe Hyper Ring and Muscle Belt/Earring (Depending on whether you prefer using Ultima-based attacks or Flare based attacks. Ultima being physical and Flare being magical if I'm not mistaken.)

[Dart]

All of his attacks are magical. A standard set would be earring, dismay shock, battle hammer, and 7 good boosters.

[SpryStrikerTidus]

Really? Huh. Snatch Shot/Blow is treated like a physical, so i thought it was a physical.

[LonelyGaruga]

The priorities are dubbed "Melee/Ranged". They have nothing to do with whether they're physical or magical. There are plenty of moves that are ranged and physical (Cyclone, all of Laguna's ranged moves that do BRV damage), or melee yet magical (Blizzard Combo, Strike Energy). Ujhbn has the type of damage listed for each attack. Simply checking would tell you what's physical and what's magical.

[SpryStrikerTidus]

The priorities are dubbed "Melee/Ranged". They have nothing to do with whether they're physical or magical. There are plenty of moves that are ranged and physical (Cyclone, all of Laguna's ranged moves that do BRV damage), or melee yet magical (Blizzard Combo, Strike Energy). Ujhbn has the type of damage listed for each attack. Simply checking would tell you what's physical and what's magical.

Though it wasn't as clear cut, that's what I meant.