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DZXtreme
11-24-2011, 07:23 PM
I did some online fights to get the experience people said i need to have and I fought against some people who I guess according to DF were pretty good fighters. One was Zelphr and the other war DarkSoulXIII. Let me know how I did. Keep in mind I'm a noob so theres no need for hardcore bashing. Yes constructive criticism is advised but please unnecessary comments like you suck and etc are not welcomed. I got alot to learn I know but I'm just learning so any tips would be appreciated. Also I do chase! Its apart of the game, it helps me get EX and it isn't banned so I will use it(for all the people who hate chase).
Here my battle with Zelphr.
It was a pretty good fight and since I was Squall I didn't chase.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32gJkGVboaU
This one was of Me vs DarkSoulXIII
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nt2cnCDACY&feature=related
Dante MHKING
11-24-2011, 07:47 PM
just a note
if zelphyr had sephiroth or kuja as his assist you shouldnt have punished omnislash with aerial circle (he can punish your circle and net a break if he calls it just before circle hits)
didnt happen but just in case you didnt know ^^
Terrina
11-24-2011, 07:49 PM
That OK fight was way too close. Your pretty good, Idk dark soul but Zelphr is a really good cloud and from what I heard he makes really good comebacks with him so the fact that you won without your main is pretty impressive. Work on your blocking though.
Also it mentioned b4 but ill repeat it, use squall on the ground more when it comes to Cloud if hes gonna stick to the air like that.
DZXtreme
11-24-2011, 07:52 PM
@Dante would it be better if i did RD if he had those assists?
@TerraxTina will do :) although sometimes i can't help but fight in the air
Dante MHKING
11-24-2011, 08:14 PM
idk if rough divide works as a punish but i scored some breaks on squalls trying to punish me with aerial circle
and you can always beatfang (it can probably be countered too but it has to be anticipated)
ChaosMuramasa
11-24-2011, 08:29 PM
Don't do Heel Crush during the Kuja Ground Assist. Land on the ground and do Thunder Barret -> Revolver Drive as Kuja finishes. Much more damaging option.
Other than that, you seem to be fairly solid.
TKG09
11-24-2011, 08:36 PM
Then you should go tell Spyder, Cooldude and K Genesis that they have been playing Squall all wrong
DZXtreme
11-24-2011, 08:36 PM
Dante from where we were could i have done blasting zone to counter or would that have taken too much time?
Ok will do Chaos and thx :)
What about he second video? Any tips?
Terrina
11-24-2011, 11:07 PM
Is everyone against using medic role? Why don't you have that on her? Is it a burden or something?
TKG09
11-24-2011, 11:10 PM
No, the Medic role just sucks
DZXtreme
11-24-2011, 11:13 PM
Lol for me its just harder for me to attack that way. I like to switch from ravager to commando when i use sephy as a assist but if i had medic i would be using that instead by mistake.
Although is using cura on the ground while being surrounded by thundaga help?
Dante MHKING
11-25-2011, 05:41 PM
Lol for me its just harder for me to attack that way. I like to switch from ravager to commando when i use sephy as a assist but if i had medic i would be using that instead by mistake.
Although is using cura on the ground while being surrounded by thundaga help?
No. and about that blasting zone thing... blasting zone can be assist punished too so... its either beat fang or rough divide (if rd works)
EDIT: i punished it with sephiroth and broke him.
DZXtreme
11-25-2011, 05:47 PM
So only beat fang?
Dante MHKING
11-25-2011, 05:50 PM
yes, when cloud has an assist bar and kuja/seph... tidus maybe too but never tried it with him.
you got to be really careful with beatfang though because if its anticipated he can punish that too.
DZXtreme
11-26-2011, 01:31 AM
I played against ICame_69 s COD with my Sephiroth.
The previous fight involved spamming but the group frowned on it if I recall correctly so I toned it down and i messed up...ALOT!
I still won but i dont feel good about this victory because I made so many mistakes. I want to win some matches without sf spamming but that seems harder. I'll practice though and if that doesn't work sf it is!
So all you sephiroth masters teach me how to become one with shadow flare plz
So tell me what I did wrong (besides not sf more) in this fight and let me know what I should do next time since Sephy is one of my mains.
http://youtu.be/Ojpq8lJSXRg[COLOR="Silver"]
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Terrina
11-26-2011, 01:37 AM
Although you missed alot at the start you came back pretty good and on the bright side you didnt lose ANY HP so good job DZX. Heres a tip when COD is in the air try blocking more if your not gonna sf more
DZXtreme
11-26-2011, 01:40 AM
Got it. I guess that makes since since she doesn't have any stagger brv moves in the air right but wouldnt scintilla be better?
Seraph Sephiroth
11-26-2011, 01:48 AM
Use scintilla to cover your dodges. Don't randomly throw out hp attacks, unless you can't be punish (aka you have 2 assist bars or they have no assist bars). And take off ground dash, you shouldn't be on the ground enough to use it. Other than that you're pretty good.
DZXtreme
11-26-2011, 01:53 AM
Wait take off omni ground dash or any ground movement completely?
And if i dont use scintilla do i just block instead?
Seraph Sephiroth
11-26-2011, 02:00 AM
Omni ground dash, you can use the cp elsewhere. If you aren't covering a dodge do a normal block. Accomplishes the same thing and its safer. And after golden assist chase do a sf for a little bit more damage. It can be the difference between a break and being forced to do a bravery attack to break your opponent.
DZXtreme
11-26-2011, 02:04 AM
Got it. Do I use the extra CP for midair evasion boost? What do I use it for?
Seraph Sephiroth
11-26-2011, 02:21 AM
id have to know your abilities to actually recommend which ones to use.
DZXtreme
11-26-2011, 02:27 AM
Actions: Ground evasion, midair evasion, ground block, midair block, Free air dash, Omni ground dash, free air dash boost,
Support: Always Target indicator, Ex core lock on, assist lock on, auto recovery,
Extra: Snooze and Lose, Counterattack, sneak attack, First strike, riposte, gamblers spirit, assist critical boost,exp to assist, rangers gear, and master sniper
Also for his weapons, Death Penality, and the Lufenian equips,
Basically I made a assist build for sephy
Seraph Sephiroth
11-26-2011, 02:44 AM
Lose first strike, only gives you crits on the first hit. Use auto assist lock on. Most people use omni over free air dash on seph, but free can work. I would put on one winged angel over death penalty. Seph doesn't need the extra assist gauge duration since he has sf. And one winged angel has +1 attack over it, and a 10% damage boost. And you could take off rangers gear and master sniper. When you take all this off you could equip precision evasion, its useful to keep you from being dodge punished. Your choice though.
DZXtreme
11-26-2011, 02:49 AM
Ok, but u only told me to put one thing on, i shouldnt put anything else on? and thats what precision evasion do? cancel dodge punish?
Seraph Sephiroth
11-26-2011, 02:56 AM
Precision evasion gives you more invincibility frames after a dodge if you dodge at the correct time.you might not have enough cp to put anything else on. But evasion boost is also good.
DZXtreme
11-26-2011, 02:59 AM
good to know :) What do have on armor, hat etc wise? and do u have a assist build or and ex build on sephy?
Seraph Sephiroth
11-26-2011, 03:07 AM
Using lufenian gear that depletes assist gauge. I have an assist build, I never got the point of an ex build since his ex mode sucks and I can do more damage with an assist build than I could with an ex burst. I heard a hybrid build works well too.
DZXtreme
11-26-2011, 03:13 AM
Yea from what I heard a hybrid build was good so he can exr.
Do you sf spam against a exdeath user?
I was gonna fight one and post a vid of it on here but i think i would get beaten so badly
Seraph Sephiroth
11-26-2011, 03:48 AM
Depends on how good the exdeath is, against a good exdeath the match just gets annoying and you should use someone who has faster attacks who can mindgame better.
RDFMASTER
11-26-2011, 04:48 AM
Yea from what I heard a hybrid build was good so he can exr.
Do you sf spam against a exdeath user?
I was gonna fight one and post a vid of it on here but i think i would get beaten so badly
I have a replay to upload which is going to give you an idea of how annoying the match up is. I am sure you don't want to even bother trying, it's bad for Sephiroth :(
Bloodsword83
11-26-2011, 04:49 AM
Yea from what I heard a hybrid build was good so he can exr.
Do you sf spam against a exdeath user?
I was gonna fight one and post a vid of it on here but i think i would get beaten so badly
You don't spam SF against Exdeath. Exdeath will tear you up. And even if you manage to space properly to avoid is counters, you won't be in any position to actually harm his HP.
In general, you're better off picking a different character.
DZXtreme
11-26-2011, 04:53 AM
So that's sf spammers krptonite huh? So can sephiroth even win if he didn't use sf?
Bloodsword83
11-26-2011, 04:59 AM
In RDF's video, he does win. However, it was a long, long drawn out match that came very close to me winning.
Short story, it's stupid hard.
DZXtreme
11-26-2011, 05:04 AM
I see, that sucks since he's one of my mains, in my replay against cod what do you guys recommend, I know I was sloppy and could do better but from what you guys know what could or should I have done?
Seraph Sephiroth
11-26-2011, 05:04 AM
Kujie coo is exdeath's kryptonite, that matchup is even harder for exdeath to pull off than exdeath vs seph is for sephiroth.
DZXtreme
11-26-2011, 05:06 AM
Really? Kuja??? How so? I must know how! O_O
RDFMASTER
11-26-2011, 05:20 AM
Really? Kuja??? How so? I must know how! O_O
Remote Flare.
Seraph Sephiroth
11-26-2011, 05:20 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pNXGvn22IA
DZXtreme
11-26-2011, 05:27 AM
Whoa!! So wait exdeath can't omniblock remote flare??
Valsion
11-26-2011, 09:01 AM
Sorry to butt in, DZX, but in the Sephiroth vs. CoD your character actually said what I planned to: You have done well. Those were some nice moves, and not as much SF spam.
DZXtreme
11-26-2011, 02:27 PM
Thx and so your saying I need to spam more or less?
Dante MHKING
11-26-2011, 02:31 PM
he was saying that you did good even though you didnt spam sf
EDIT: I played against ICame_69 s COD with my Sephiroth.
The previous fight involved spamming but the group frowned on it if I recall correctly so I toned it down and i messed up...ALOT!
to be honest... you shouldnt care for what groups like icames think of that ... if they dont like you spamming sf then they shouldnt play you.
personally i dislike him because he always says some shit when i win (like i assist camped or EX BUILDS ARE BROKEN LOL)
tldr. you should spam as much as you want if thats how you like to play.
DZXtreme
11-26-2011, 02:37 PM
Oh ok, I didn't want the guys to kick me so I didn't but I think that match would of been better on my part if I
did spam it more, i don't get it though people beat sf spammers all the time so what's the big deal?
Dante MHKING
11-26-2011, 02:40 PM
the big deal is... i dont wanna insult but i have to.
Icame sucks so he cant deal with common tactics... thats why he says you won because of spam.
also add my psn... ill get my ps3 back in a few days then we can play. Dante_MHKING
DZXtreme
11-26-2011, 02:44 PM
I guess, I guess if I keep winning against him with my sephy without then why using him with sf spam be that bad, besides it's just a game, I don't want to be mean but alot of them complain to much too claim that their good,
And btw were already friends on the psn XD
Dante MHKING
11-26-2011, 02:48 PM
I guess, I guess if I keep winning against him with my sephy without then why using him with sf spam be that bad, besides it's just a game, I don't want to be mean but alot of them complain to much too claim that their good,
And btw were already friends on the psn XD
yeah thought we were already lol.
anyway add all vids to your first post so they are easier to find. and spoiler them (or whatever thats called).
DZXtreme
11-26-2011, 02:50 PM
You mean my sephy video? How do I move to my first post?
Dante MHKING
11-26-2011, 02:59 PM
edit post... dunno the rest lol
kewldude475
11-27-2011, 06:56 PM
You should probably learn how to use Sephiroth without SF spam. BRV boost on dodge can and will take you down if you need spam.
Of course, if you DO spam, then don't be surprised if people decide not to play with you. Don't get mad, just find someone who will accept you for the SF spammer that you are. Like me ;)
DZXtreme
11-27-2011, 07:04 PM
Yea i noticed. Like how you do with chase people right?
Well all i really care about as far as in who i want to accept how I play is the good players, UW, TKG, seraph, you, Cooldude, and all the rest because I want to be able to play them at my best and it involves all the thing most people hate. If they don't like it I won't use it but if they do then well...I will
I get what your saying though Kewl and I will practice just in case for counter sf Sephiroth's (if there's any besides exdeath)
DZXtreme
12-04-2011, 10:38 PM
Ok I changed my assist from kuja to cecil just to play around for fun cause I like cecil and see what combos I can do. I found this unique combo using Hells gate :D I fought SalemFox on ahp to see how it would work on PVP
Tell me what you guys think of the assist combo and my fight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqE3RWNN80I
Finale
12-06-2011, 10:07 AM
Tell me what you guys think of the assist combo and my fight
For the assist, if it works it is quite effective however it's waaay to ineffective. The hells combo thing only works when using Sudden cruetly meaning that any assists branched off of a wall rush is rendered much worse than with an assist(Kuja of course) that can Assist Chase.
As for the fight...it's hard to tell if you played exceptionally well. You did a normal shadow flare Sephiroth. I'm not saying you did bad but that win was certainly due to your opponent being bad rather than you being good. Maybe it was because he was Squall and thus was a bad match-up to shadow flare Sephiroth due to Squalls short range and thus predictable moves.
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