The Macgyver game

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

Here's how this works. People will give a scenario(any scenario) involving a goal that must be reached and some items to help you reach it, but the items must be somewhat useless. The fun of the game is not JUST in overcoming the problem, but by how creative it is. As such, there is no right answer most of the time(though there ARE wrong ones), though you can make it as such if you wish. Please try to be plausible and believable way. I'll make an example story:

You must save the life of a dog who is about to be injected lethally. You have some string, a rubber band, and a metal paper clip. You must save the dog without dying, becoming a fugitive, or killing the dog.

Answer one: Talk to the people and ask for the dog back. (Wrong. Avoid making implausible assumptions about the scenario if possible. In this case, a plausible assumption would be that the doctors are giving the dog the injection no matter what you think)

Answer two: Kill a doctor using the paper clip to stab him and the rubber band and string to suffocate him to death, steal his clothes, and walk the dog out safely. (Wrong.Be aware of possible repercussions. You killed a doctor and stole a dog. People are going to start looking at who could have done it and it wouldn't be long before you become a fugitive.)

Answer 3: Get behind a doctor and using the rubber band and string gag him, steal his clothes and knock him out. Give the dog the injection, but before you do, swap out the needle for the paper clip end and fool the doctors into thinking it's dead and that you are disposing the corpse. Drive away.(Valid answer. The player used all 3 items, and while he knocked out a doctor, no damage has been done as far as they are concerned. The doctor didn't see you because you knocked him out, and they think the dog is dead so they do not hunt for it.)

Now lets try another story:

Your are an attorney defending your client. He is an innocent man accused of murder who was at the scene when it happened. On him is a baseball bat, a piano wire, and a pretty heavy book about knots. Give a valid reason why a man carrying those things would be at a murder scene AND be innocent. Be sure to explain ALL of the items

[Björk]

"a pretty heavy book on knots."

See, I'd reply, but WAT Dx.

[Smoofy]

Explain to me what Piano Wire is, I forget, then I'll answer :D

[smilie]

I have a question because I don't know what kind of person the victim is and I don't know what place it is. :)

But here is a guess, the man wants to tie a piano wire to the baseball bat and a baseball and he needs the book to do so. :)

He wants to practice alone at night and accidentally, he was a witness to a murder. :)

My answer has so many questions unanswered but that's all I can think of with the details. :)

[Kaji]

My client was attempting tightrope walking on a piano wire tied to two tall buildings. For extra challenge he put the heavy book on his head. He was daring enough to use only a baseball bat as a balacing pole. He fell into the murder scene. Luckily, he survived the fall by grabbing hold of the elastic piano wire, a part of which snapped and left him with half the wire. By that time the victim was already dead, shortly before being caught at the scene.

[Suppi]

http://dissidiaforums.com/picture.php?albumid=77&pictureid=789
Figure it out =p No editing of the picture other than drawing what you did with the stickfigure *you* to get to the exit. No portals/super powers please :3
Breaking the 4th wall isn't a super power if it's comical :3

[Kaji]

Figure it out =p No editing of the picture other than drawing what you did with the stickfigure *you* to get to the exit. No portals/super powers please :3
Breaking the 4th wall isn't a super power if it's comical :3

1. Carry a big wok (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wok) up the ladder and to the edge of the top floor.
2. Use my hands to hang on to the edge of the floor, while my feet are clamping on the wok.
3. Slowly descend with my body, feet and the wok to the surface of the acid and avoid excessive splashing.
4. Now that I am floating on my wok, push against the wall and let the momentum carry me to the exit.

Alternative:

1. Carry a can of LPG (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquefied_petroleum_gas) up the ladder and to the edge of the top floor.
2. With a swinging action throw the can into the middle of the acid pool.
3. Wait and let the acid corrodes the metal, resulting in a leakage of the LPG and hopefully an explosion on contact with the acid (would anyone confirm the chemistry for me?).
4. Hopefully the explosion would make a hole at the bottom of the acid pool, so all the acid leaks to the bottom floor.
5. Fall onto the floor where the acid pool previously was.
6. Jump over the hole to get to the exit.

[Suppi]

1. Carry a big wok (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wok) up the ladder and to the edge of the top floor.
2. Use my hands to hang on to the edge of the floor, while my feet are clamping on the wok.
3. Slowly descend with my body, feet and the wok to the surface of the acid and avoid excessive splashing.
4. Now that I am floating on my wok, push against the wall and let the momentum carry me to the exit.

Alternative:

1. Carry a can of LPG (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquefied_petroleum_gas) up the ladder and to the edge of the top floor.
2. With a swinging action throw the can into the middle of the acid pool.
3. Wait and let the acid corrodes the metal, resulting in a leakage of the LPG and hopefully an explosion on contact with the acid (would anyone confirm the chemistry for me?).
4. Hopefully the explosion would make a hole at the bottom of the acid pool, so all the acid leaks to the bottom floor.
5. Fall onto the floor where the acid pool previously was.
6. Jump over the hole to get to the exit.

You have a giant tank of LPG in your kitchen? Also how did you carry it up the ladder? Also wouldn't it take days-weeks to corrode the metal depending on the acidity of it?

Also the wok would be too small if it could fit the narrow passage way of the ladder :3 At best it will be the length of shoulder to shoulder and you would most likly tip over/sink if the weight of your entire body was on that single wok on the acid. Nice try but technically I see you falling off if you tried the Wok and having a LPG tank is just kind of out there for a kitchen item :3

[smilie]

What kind of acid is it anyways? :)

Is it not enough to destroy the floor? :)

[Suppi]

What kind of acid is it anyways? :)

Is it not enough to destroy the floor? :)

You can say it's Acid X. Acidity unknown and Viscosity unknown. All you know is touching it = No No... it's part of the rules I don't care if it won't kill you :3
Everything in the picture is static so nothing will change over the coarse of time no matter how long you wait. Nothing can be ripped off the walls *ladders etc* as there stuck good. Everything to an extent is unbreakable *unless you had a good enough reason to break it* (IE: Chemical explosion from compressed tank but you won't have that kind of item in the kitchen now would you :3).
Stuff like that.
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All answers I've seen were straight forward T_T nothing out of the box or original DX

[Kaji]

You have a giant tank of LPG in your kitchen? Also how did you carry it up the ladder? Also wouldn't it take days-weeks to corrode the metal depending on the acidity of it?

Also the wok would be too small if it could fit the narrow passage way of the ladder :3 At best it will be the length of shoulder to shoulder and you would most likly tip over/sink if the weight of your entire body was on that single wok on the acid. Nice try but technically I see you falling off if you tried the Wok and having a LPG tank is just kind of out there for a kitchen item :3

Here in Hong Kong, it is common to find a cylinder container of LPG in a kitchen as a cooking fuel. You can carry one like this while climbing up the ladder:
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_6GQRBJwJ37M/SeyWgD-SUBI/AAAAAAAAL-0/iaqhn_Smguc/s800/100220image001.jpg
Well, you didn't specify a time limit. :p

I agree that the wok attempt would be too risky. (As if hoping for an LPG explosion isn't.) :D

[smilie]

So the wall can't be destroyed as well as the floor huh. :)

The craziest idea I can think of is get the biggest tool in the kitchen that you can use as a scoop to minimize the amount of acid until there is no more. :)

[ValkyrieWing]

http://dissidiaforums.com/picture.php?albumid=77&pictureid=789
Figure it out =p No editing of the picture other than drawing what you did with the stickfigure *you* to get to the exit. No portals/super powers please :3
Breaking the 4th wall isn't a super power if it's comical :3

Bring a box of baking soda up the ladder with me and hope to neutralize the acid. But I think I'm gonna need a bigger box of baking soda. lol

[Kaji]

1. From your kitchen find an extra-large, air-tight and acidproof garbage can.
2. Carry it to the edge of the top floor and put yourself into the garbage can, sealed tight.
3. Tumble off the edge, with sufficient vertical momentum so that you bump into the right-hand-side wall.
4. Hope that the rebound momentum will let you float to the exit.

[Demitel]

Can I jump on Valkyrie Wing's back and fly to the exit? I mean I don't technically have the supernatural powers, and I'm sure she visits her kitchen every so often.

[smilie]

The one Colonel-Gilgamesh posted was ignored! :)

Someone try solving it. :)

[ValkyrieWing]

Are you calling me a bird, Demitel? I only give free rides to fallen warriors, not schmucks like you on the internet. ;D

[smilie]

*strucks Demitel from a high area until he falls* :)

Okay, he is a fallen warrior now. :)

[Kaji]

The one Colonel-Gilgamesh posted was ignored! :)

Someone try solving it. :)

I did. Let's see if Colonel-Gilgamesh approves of my answer.

[Suppi]

I'll post my 2 answers of mines tomorrow=p give you guys the chance to find awesome answers :3
Garbage bag is gonna leak and touching just a smidget of acid = Disqualified. :3
Baking Soda + acid = still acid there so no touching it :3
No carving walls! You're not in prison this is limbo land :3
I highly doubt the tank will corrode before you die of starvation/thirst/insanity.

Why not rip your own legs off and use them as stilts with your hands while doing hand stands so only your legs are submerged in the acid... nvm XD

[Demitel]

Meh. Oh well. Have $20. Can I get a ride to the exit now, please? XD

[Kaji]

I'll post my 2 answers of mines tomorrow=p give you guys the chance to find awesome answers :3
Garbage bag is gonna leak and touching just a smidget of acid = Disqualified. :3
Baking Soda + acid = still acid there so no touching it :3
No carving walls! You're not in prison this is limbo land :3
I highly doubt the tank will corrode before you die of starvation/thirst/insanity.

Why not rip your own legs off and use them as stilts with your hands while doing hand stands so only your legs are submerged in the acid... nvm XD

The ads said my garbage can (not bag) is acidproof! :D

[ValkyrieWing]

I'll post my 2 answers of mines tomorrow=p give you guys the chance to find awesome answers :3
Garbage bag is gonna leak and touching just a smidget of acid = Disqualified. :3
Baking Soda + acid = still acid there so no touching it :3
No carving walls! You're not in prison this is limbo land :3
I highly doubt the tank will corrode before you die of starvation/thirst/insanity.

Why not rip your own legs off and use them as stilts with your hands while doing hand stands so only your legs are submerged in the acid... nvm XD

But then you'd still be touching the acid, only your ripped-off legs would be, haha. I'll be honest and say I didn't think about what neutralized acid would look like. Somehow I pictured froth like when you hose something down with a fire extinguisher. lol


*strucks Demitel from a high area until he falls* :)

Okay, he is a fallen warrior now. :)

That doesn't count. He didn't even fight back! XD


Meh. Oh well. Have $20. Can I get a ride to the exit now, please? XD

lmao Hey, I could stretch twenty dollars to go quite a ways in one week, so heck yes, I will carry you across the acid.

[smilie]

He was fighting for the knowledge that will answer the puzzle so he is a warrior now. :)

[Suppi]

Your are an attorney defending your client. He is an innocent man accused of murder who was at the scene when it happened. On him is a baseball bat, a piano wire, and a pretty heavy book about knots. Give a valid reason why a man carrying those things would be at a murder scene AND be innocent. Be sure to explain ALL of the items

The baseball bat = He was heading home from the batting cages practicing his swings.
Piano Wire = his grand piano had some strings broken by a mouse and he went to the store after batting to buy some string to replace it himself.
Book on Knots = He's obviously into shibari/kinbaku.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Img_bird.jpg
the wiki itself has nudity so can't link it :V
but if you want a better answer he's a master craftsmen *who knows how to fix pianos on that* and wanted to learn how to tie the knots better on his yacht, HE'S GOT A BOAT MOTHA FUCKA!

[Durzo]

YEAH.
He can turn a piece of string, a plastic bottle and a handgun into a fully functional airplane!

[Barkeep]

You are an attorney defending your client. He is an innocent man accused of murder who was at the scene when it happened. On him is a baseball bat, a piano wire, and a pretty heavy book about knots. Give a valid reason why a man carrying those things would be at a murder scene AND be innocent. Be sure to explain ALL of the items

1. He is a man, so I assume he is over 21.

2. I am going to assume that the murdered person was a scoutmaster.

3. Why would he use a "heavy book about knots" as a bludgeon if he had a bat? He was probably delivering it to him so he could teach his troop with it.

4. A baseball bat is prime wood for making a walking stick, which is of great use in hiking and self defense.

5. You wouldn't be able to garrote someone with just piano wire alone, it would slice your hands, and my client has no gloves in his possession. A fishing lure could also be made using piano wire, and the scoutmaster may have wanted to demonstrate to his troop how to do it themselves.

My try anyway, hope it's viable.

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

After reviewing all of the answers given, most were valid, but only Barkeep has convinced the jury of the man's innocence!
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Think I'll make another one...

A robber has entered your house looking for valuables. From around a corner, you spot that he is openly wielding a knife, but you can see a gun tucked away under his shirt. The phone lines have been cut(your cell has no battery life) and all the locals are out and away. Using only a potato masher, a blanket, and a small rubber ball, knock out the robber, get him arrested, or convince him to leave without taking any valuables. You must not get killed, lose any valuables, or allow him a chance to shoot his gun.

[Barkeep]

Depending on the thickness of the blanket, I would attempt this:

1. Use the masher blades to cut the blanket into long strips.

2. Tie the strips together.

3. Tie the masher to the end of the rope.

4. Throw the ball off a wall at an angle so that it knocks something down around the corner, preferably a vase.

5. When the robber turns, hit the robbers hand with your makeshift cloth mace to disarm his knife, then choke him with the cloth until he passes out.

6. Tie the robber up with the cloth, like you would lasso a cow.

6. Remove his gun from his possession, pick up the knife from the floor, put it in a safe place drag him out to the lawn, and call for police using your neighbors cellphone/landline.

7. Turnover the weapons to the police, as the robber is arrested.

8. Cue victory music.

[Kaji]

After reviewing all of the answers given, most were valid, but only Barkeep has convinced the jury of the man's innocence!

You mean Barkeep managed to convince the jury to also assume that the murder victim was a scoutmaster???

[Barkeep]

You mean Barkeep managed to convince the jury to also assume that the murder victim was a scoutmaster???

I am assuming the victim was a scoutmaster, all he needed was a plausible explanation.

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

True. Assuming who the victim was was a legitimate assumption.

[Knocking_you_all_down]

http://dissidiaforums.com/picture.php?albumid=77&pictureid=789
Figure it out =p No editing of the picture other than drawing what you did with the stickfigure *you* to get to the exit. No portals/super powers please :3
Breaking the 4th wall isn't a super power if it's comical :3
Easy. I have an enormous knife in my kitchen, so I'll use it to slice through the 2D wall and climb through the hole into the exit.

[Kaji]

5. When the robber turns, hit the robbers hand with your makeshift cloth mace to disarm his knife, then choke him with the cloth until he passes out.
You know you've been playing too much DFF if:
1. You worry about the long cooldown time of the cloth mace attack, which makes you punishable if you miss.
2. You worry that the robber might block your attack and stagger you.
3. You worry that he might have Riposte equiped.
4. He would punish you with his gun.
5. When the robber turns to face the Ex Core or vase or whatever, it's just him playing mind game with you.
6. If you do get to choke him, you might not have enough BP to finish him off.
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True. Assuming who the victim was was a legitimate assumption.

Now I get it, but I've also accepted the fact that I could never become a lawyer.

[Suppi]

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/9999/challenge1a.jpg
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/7366/challenge1b.jpg
This is what I came up with... I'll start working on Challenge 2 :3
-horribly rushed MS paint diagram ftw :3
Also for the item I took a turkey sandwich for each one. Since I would get hungry and bored waiting at the exit :3

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

Bad Suupi! No cheesecake for you!

/me preps banhammer incase Suupi does something like this in his next challenge.

[MoD]

D: i was going to solve it DX like that

[Suppi]

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4199/challenge2h.png
Basic Rules
-Follow the instructions
-Everything in the picture is static*can't break walls etc*
-Don't use any method used before hand
-No Super Powers
- ____________________ just in case I forgot about something :3
-No correcting my horrible spelling errors :3


Bad Suupi! No cheesecake for you!
/me preps banhammer incase Suupi does something like this in his next challenge.

Why was it that bad :3 Oh well next one is easier XD

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

I was only joking

I suppose I can participate in this one.

Turns out, just today, I threw out a chunk of my couch, so I'll use a board with two nails on each end. I split it in two, and using the nails, I grapple onto the floor below the lubricant, then pull myself up and over.

[Suppi]

I was only joking

I suppose I can participate in this one.

Turns out, just today, I threw out a chunk of my couch, so I'll use a board with two nails on each end. I split it in two, and using the nails, I grapple onto the floor below the lubricant, then pull myself up and over.

Sorry but since the floor can't be damaged it only grabs the lube and you slide down. The cake candles run out and the cake explodes... Gameover :3

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

Well...since I lost......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCRkVeFQBmw

[Suppi]

Well...since I lost......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCRkVeFQBmw

Truthfully I know only one way to beat this and It isn't very funny/creative =/

[MoD]

Solved :3
http://dissidiaforums.com/picture.php?albumid=79&pictureid=806

[Suppi]

Solved :3
http://dissidiaforums.com/picture.php?albumid=79&pictureid=806

The wall caves in around you and you are pinned to the ground... the cake slides down the shaft and lands in front of you but you can't reach it. You stare at it till you die of starvation/thirst.

[MoD]

b b but the cake is LIE D:

[Suppi]

b b but the cake is LIE D:

It was oh so real. But you died with it staring in your face because you lost faith in it.

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

You guys are ignoring mine........

[MoD]

will u killed us all :/

i give up suupii >_> next 1 plz ?

[Knocking_you_all_down]

Fortunately, I happen to have a grappling hook in my trash can...

[Suppi]

Fortunately, I happen to have a grappling hook in my trash can...

how would you use the grappling hook :3 I'm pretty sure it's going to be hard as hell trying to grab the table on the other side at that kind of throwing angle :3 Even then how will you walk/crawl through the whole with the grappling hook attached if the floor is lubed stupidly well by the best lube in the world?

[smilie]

Is the green stuff still acid? :)

Get something heavy from the thrash and try to shake the ground until the cake goes down the slide until you can get. :)

[MoD]

and the cake(is a LIE) is to big to fit
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Is the green stuff still acid? :)

Get something heavy from the thrash and try to shake the ground until the cake goes down the slide until you can get. :)

the ACID will burn the cake....
oh wait this is suupii job >_>

[smilie]

Is there a rule that says the cake to be in perfect shape when you get it? :)

[MoD]

i think the ACID will burn the whole cake...

[Suppi]

Is there a rule that says the cake to be in perfect shape when you get it? :)

Fine. The table is super glued to the floor and can't move. The cake can't be harmed. And you must get to the top room with the delicious cake. You can't cause an earthquake :V

[smilie]

You shouldn't add some restrictions in the middle of the puzzle solving. :)

[MoD]

hay we cant use super stuff but u can ?
not fair:/

[Suppi]

hay we cant use super stuff but u can ?
not fair:/

Hey the letters are "static" with the image :3 Imagine them jutting out of the wall like a billboard. just scale those :3
Use your imagination people!

[smilie]

Can't use the different angle trick now. :)

But what about hidden doors, are they forbidden? :)

[MoD]

soleved :3
http://dissidiaforums.com/picture.php?albumid=79&pictureid=807


damn it late ..:V

[smilie]

I thought you can't use different angles at this one. :)

[MoD]

i know but i was making this and i didn't see the last post...

[smilie]

I thought you know everything? :)

[Suppi]

soleved :3
http://dissidiaforums.com/picture.php?albumid=79&pictureid=807


damn it late ..:V

I don't see how this works since you altered the smooth floor into stairs :3 All I did for mines was make the wall you though separating the ladder from the exit just a background.

[smilie]

The acid like thing was gone also. :)

[Suppi]

i know but i was making this and i didn't see the last post...

You Liar :3

[MoD]

yes everything about every1 who use the IRC :3
and suupii is changing the rules in every post >__>

[smilie]

There will always be someone who can solve the puzzle regardless of the changing in the rules anyway. :)

[Suppi]

The acid like thing was gone also. :)

It's super lube from the future that has 0 friction but sticks to the wall magically :3

[MoD]

I don't see how this works since you altered the smooth floor into stairs :3 All I did for mines was make the wall you though separating the ladder from the exit just a background.

u do realize that the angel is different right ?

[Suppi]

yes everything about every1 who use the IRC :3
and suupii is changing the rules in every post >__>

I'm not changing any of the rules :3 I'm just clarifying to a better degree :3

[MoD]

righhhhhhhhht
anyway ...
any1 got batter ideas?

[smilie]

Adding is a form of changing. :)

[MoD]

i guess we can add something right ?
SUUPII? -_-

[Suppi]

i guess we can add something right ?
SUUPII? -_-

No adding. And altering camera angle has already been used :3

[smilie]

Only Suupii is allowed to add MoD. :)

Next attempt: Look for a flashlight in the thrash to find that the wall has a secret button to an entrance that leads to the cake. :)

[MoD]

suupii will say there is no secret button..
-_-

[smilie]

I'm with NOBODY at the moment. :)

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

SINCE EVERYONE IGNORED MY LAST PUZZLE!

I'm moving on. Also, Suupi. I suggest you keep in mind the spirit of the thread. While there is nothing against not using the items given unless stated, please refrain from using trick question: You see, then everyone will approach it as such and start just ignoring the rules.

You wake up in the middle of a minefield, not knowing what happened but knowing that your legs have been injured. The mines have all been marked with flags, but there are about 7 of them. You find all the items still on you when you were knocked out which were an iPod with headphones, an eraser, and a collapsible telescope . Your legs, while functional, cannot navigate well enough to move around all of the mines. You must get out safely by any of the following means: A) Finding a way to balance yourself, B) Detonating all the mines before you get near them, and C) finding a way to navigate the mines without fixing your leg.

[Suppi]

Considering the mine field should have plenty of rocky gravel... pick it up and keep throwing them till they all blow up... then use the telescope as a walking stick after bending it so it doesn't collapse with a rock. The erase can be used to wedge the telescope if you want though no reason for it... and you listen to your ipod while pimping it out Sean connery style.

if not find the nearest land mine and use the ipod/earphones as a long light wace flail and hit the mind till it blows up... hopefully the rocks flying at you should be able to throw at the other land mines to make a path.

[Kaji]

Colonel-Gilgamesh, Barkeep did answer your last puzzle:


Depending on the thickness of the blanket, I would attempt this:

1. Use the masher blades to cut the blanket into long strips.

2. Tie the strips together.

3. Tie the masher to the end of the rope.

4. Throw the ball off a wall at an angle so that it knocks something down around the corner, preferably a vase.

5. When the robber turns, hit the robbers hand with your makeshift cloth mace to disarm his knife, then choke him with the cloth until he passes out.

6. Tie the robber up with the cloth, like you would lasso a cow.

6. Remove his gun from his possession, pick up the knife from the floor, put it in a safe place drag him out to the lawn, and call for police using your neighbors cellphone/landline.

7. Turnover the weapons to the police, as the robber is arrested.

8. Cue victory music.

I couldn't come up with something better, so I simply waited for your review of Barkeep's answer.

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

And one answer does not a fun game make. I wait until about....3-4 answers before I declare a winner for my puzzles
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And because there is nothing wrong with that answer, I saw no need to comment on it

[Kaji]

You wake up in the middle of a minefield, not knowing what happened but knowing that your legs have been injured. The mines have all been marked with flags, but there are about 7 of them. You find all the items still on you when you were knocked out which were an iPod with headphones, an eraser, and a collapsible telescope . Your legs, while functional, cannot navigate well enough to move around all of the mines. You must get out safely by any of the following means: A) Finding a way to balance yourself, B) Detonating all the mines before you get near them, and C) finding a way to navigate the mines without fixing your leg.

Since when do people start marking mines with flags and defeat the whole purpose of mines? Applying Occam's razor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor), the logical conclusion is that I must be dreaming. Therefore the solution must involve becoming lucid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_dream) in the dream:

1. The telescope is perfect for a reality check (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_dream#Reality_testing). Look through the telescope at a specific place. Look away and, without moving the telescope at all, look through it again. If I see something different, I can be darn sure I am dreaming. Thus I become lucid.

2. Since this is a dream, I could use the eraser to erase anything in my dream, including the mines. However, this is not really necessary, because...

3. I could always choose to wake up from the dream, and just before doing that, play FF Victory Fanfare with the iPod.

Hence, I would have satisfied the requirement of:
C) finding a way to navigate the mines without fixing your leg.

Yup, I totally got through the mines without doing anything to my leg. I didn't even realise I had legs! Well, you could argue that the legs in your dream aren't real and therefore don't exist. Heck, you could even argue that the mines didn't exist in the first place!

Welcome back to reality, but are you really sure that you aren't dreaming?

[Slayer0]

Kaji I think I love you for sheer epicness.

[smilie]

Kaji just had the best answer so far. :)

Kaji wins! :)

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

Sorry, but the assumption that it is a dream is invalid. People put flags on mines during military training. it's to help them learn to identify mines by other means as well as figure out how to beat them

[smilie]

Then my answer is: :)

You use the telescope to find someone who can help you. :)

Use Throw with the eraser as hard as you can to that person and play the Ipod at it's loudest. :)

And rescue comes. :)

[icyie04]

Then my answer is: :)

You use the telescope to find someone who can help you. :)

Use Throw the eraser as hard as you can to that person and play the Ipod at it's loudest. :)

And rescue comes. :)

Holy shit, this makes sense xD

[Knocking_you_all_down]

That's something I would've thought of...eventually.

[Suppi]

Obviously using the Ipod/earphones as a miniature flail to set off a near by landmine to get rocks to throw at other landmines in your path doesn't come up as a good enough idea :V

[Kaji]

Thanks to Slayer0 and Smilie for the support, but since Colonel-Gilgamesh is the man of this thread if he says my answer is not good enough then my answer is not good enough. :)

Here is my second attempt:

Using the headphone wire to tie the telescope to my leg, especially above and below my injured area. That way I can stand and walk on the injured leg, around the mines. It may still hurt a lot, and that's why I would need to chew on the eraser to prevent excessive bleeding from biting my own teeth/gum/lips.

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

Sorry, I was doing Finals stuff.

Anyways, the winner is Smile

[smilie]

Sorry, I was doing Finals stuff.

Anyways, the winner is Smile

I knew my solution was right. :)

Are there new situations? :)

[CHOCOBO]

make one where someone is about to get eaten by a tiger and try to save him!

[Kaji]

make one where someone is about to get eaten by a tiger and try to save him!

Block its BP attack and while it's staggered run away with your friend. :)

[Knocking_you_all_down]

What if it uses an HP attack?

[smilie]

Try to wake up cause it's a dream. :)

Or just use a phoenix down on your friend once you get rid of the tiger. :)

[Ghurdrich]

Fleshed out and ready to go, but since Bears>Tigers, we're going to use a bear instead. Because it's my puzzle.

You and your friend are camping in the woods, but you're nearing the end of your trip, seeing as how you're running out of supplies. You wake up on the final morning to find that your friend has gone missing. Concerned, you get up to look for him. It only takes a minute to realize that he has been attacked by a bear! Your friend is on the ground, and you have a limited amount of time to run back and grab something from your campsite to save your friend.

You are an average human being. You can only carry as many things as an average human could carry.
This was a casual trip to the woods, not a hunting trip. You don't have any firearms, nor do you have any blade beyond a standard, somewhat dulled kitchen knife used for cutting meat. (IE, this knife would require you to get close enough to the bear that he could take a swing at you)
You're running low on food, and you only have a few canned items left. Certainly nothing that a bear would be interested in
Remember: You only have so much time! There's only so long your friend can stave off this bear with his hands.

Other than that, you've got generic camping supplies; stuff that you'd bring camping with you. Let's see what you can come up with!
Also, apologies to Colonel-Gilgamesh for hijacking the thread briefly :P

[CHOCOBO]

I WOULD run and grab a stone and throw it at his head to catch his attention then have the kitchen knife and when he gets near throw the knife around his heart and if i miss or hit his foot, etc. i would light a match and set him on fire!

[Smoofy]

I'd distract it with the awesomeness of Dissidia, then... Naw, I got nothing.

[smilie]

My first attempt. :)

1. Tell the friend to act dead(May not work but still worth I think) and look around for some stones and maybe I can find two flints. :)
2. Since it is in the woods, I'll throw a stone to the bear to catch it's attention. :)
3. Wait near a tree with a weak branch until the bear catches up and dodge so the tree will be hit instead falling a branch in the process. :)
4. Use the flint to light the leaves in the branch and a torch is now made to use for scaring the bear away. :)

[LemenEX]

It's simple:
I use a stylograph and an elastic to manipulate the radio we two took with us, making a computer out of it to hack into the nearest TV station, hijacking a satellite in the orbit and dragging it down into the earth's atmosphere to finally smash the bear with it.

And if you think that's ridiculous - watch the series :rolleyes:

Oooor, I'd just light up a wooden stick on the camping fire or with a lighter and scare the bear off.
I prefer the first method, tho.


Oooor, the last method: Walk away.
I didn't like that guy anyway :D:D

[Ghurdrich]

I think most of you guys are underestimating the intelligence of a bear >.>


I WOULD run and grab a stone and throw it at his head to catch his attention then have the kitchen knife and when he gets near throw the knife around his heart and if i miss or hit his foot, etc. i would light a match and set him on fire!
This isn't gonna work. A bear is smarter than that, and he probably has a better range. The knife bounces off his thick fur, and as you get close to light him with the match, he takes a swing at your face. Now you have no face. Also the wind from the powerful swing puts out the tiny match flame.


1. Tell the friend to act dead(May not work but still worth I think) and look around for some stones and maybe I can find two flints.
2. Since it is in the woods, I'll throw a stone to the bear to catch it's attention.
3. Wait near a tree with a weak branch until the bear catches up and dodge so the tree will be hit instead falling a branch in the process.
4. Use the flint to light the leaves in the branch and a torch is now made to use for scaring the bear away.

This is a little closer, but not quite there. Unfortunately, since you're not a professional matador, and since a bear's style of killing you isn't 'charging headfirst' the bear stops short of you, and the tree remains un-hit. The branch never falls, and now you're left playing fisticuffs with a bear. I hope you're good at fisticuffs.


Oooor, I'd just light up a wooden stick on the camping fire or with a lighter and scare the bear off.

I sense a theme here... Still, this is the best answer so far. Bears aren't particularly afraid of fire, but you could probably keep it at a distance until you can get in your car or whatever.
Anyone else got anything? Fire is lame (Though functional) and a one-step process is even more lame (No offense, I did enjoy the radio thing. Unfortunately that's debunked because it would take too long for the satellite to reach earth, so your friend is dead)

[LemenEX]

Bears aren't particularly afraid of fire, but you could probably keep it at a distance until you can get in your car or whatever.

Huh, I dunno. It works in movies, so it has to in real life, since HOLLYWOOD DOESN'T LIE!!!111

[smilie]

My first attempt. :)

1. Tell the friend to act dead(May not work but still worth I think) and look around for some stones and maybe I can find two flints. :)
2. Since it is in the woods, I'll throw a stone to the bear to catch it's attention. :)
3. Wait near a tree with a weak branch until the bear catches up and dodge so the tree will be hit instead falling a branch in the process. :)
4. Use the flint to light the leaves in the branch and a torch is now made to use for scaring the bear away. :)

Throwing a stone to a wild animal (whatever it is) would most likely get that animal angry and an angry wild animal would not think the same way as a calm wild animal and most likely attack the person responsible head-on. :)

Or my new attempt would be throwing a lot of stone to the bear targetting it's mouth since it will likely roar whenever it is hit by a stone from the back and that might make him unharmed for a minute giving us a chance to escape. :)

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

Ok, I'll take a frying pan that we were cooking meat in. It's still over the fire and has some grease in it. Using the frying pan, I fling the still hot grease into the bear's eyes/face/nose. The bear recoils, and I use the chance to resuce my friend and escape before the bear would recover and go into a frenzy.

If you want more, I could also take some rope from the campsite to trip and tie up the staggering bear, then take a pole from our tent to prop up my buddy, who is severly injured, or shove it down the bears throat to keep it occupied longer.

Also, Ghurd, I encourage people to post their own problems..

[LemenEX]

Ok, I'll take a frying pan that we were cooking meat in. It's still over the fire and has some grease in it. Using the frying pan, I fling the still hot grease into the bear's eyes/face/nose. The bear recoils, and I use the chance to resuce my friend and escape before the bear would recover and go into a frenzy

Also, Ghurd, I encourage people to post their own problems..

You got a frying pan filled with burning hot grease right when you're waking up early in the morning?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_d_v3uWfQ0sM/Sk0B38eKC0I/AAAAAAAAAKA/Td7c7oz2O5Y/s320/CoolStoryBro.jpg

:rolleyes:

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

Uh...Yeah. I had Bacon when I went camping. We had it for Breakfast

[LemenEX]

Uh...Yeah. I had Bacon when I went camping. We had it for Breakfast

The point is not what, but when.
In Ghur's story, you wake up, notice that you're friend's gone and start looking for him.
Did you take your frying pan with ya, which miraculously is boiling hot? :rolleyes:
If yes- Burn the Witch! :D


@EDIT@: How did I double-post? 0o

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

And it's unfeasible that my friend was making breakfast before he got attacked and left the pan there to cook? Besides, in Ghurds story, the item I choose isn't magically with me, I go back and get it from the campsite

[Ghurdrich]

Well, I think that Colonel Gilgamesh's story is plausible. Bacon is something people bring with them while camping, and it's plausible that the friend was cooking bacon in the morning. In fact, that would probably have been what attracted the bear in the first place. I also like the tent pole idea, although the rope thing might get you killed.

And, well, I think it's the most plausible idea, actually. Bears will vary as to how they react to fire. Sometimes they'll ignore it completely. There have been recorded cases of a bear reaching into a fire to get some food that was cooking. So the fire on a stick thing might hold off the bear, or it might not. And for the record, I don't suppose bears are all that flammable.
However, I'm pretty sure everything will react to boiling grease the same way - it hurts like a bitch. Plus if you threw it at its face, some would get in its eyes, and that's blinding. A blind bear is much easier to deal with than a bear that can see you. And, like he said, he could go back and get a tent pole as well, which would put some distance between him and the bear.
Anyways, Gilgamesh is the winnar of this one.

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

Thank you Ghurd. TAKE THAT LEMEN! Anyways, Ghurd, I enjoyed your story, it was very fleshed out, which is nice because these stories could use it sometimes. Feel Free to contribute more. I should have another story uploaded sometime soon.
=== Double post was automatically merged. ===
Ok, Got one.

Both you and your rival have both found a gold idol you have both been searching for. Before either of you grab it, you suddenly spot each other and come together before the idol. Using any method you can, find a way to make it outside with the idol.
-You are rivals, not enemies. Killing him is entirely out of the question, whether intentional or not, as is causing major harm to one another.
-There is a legend of a curse around the idol. Your rival doesn't know what it is, but he has always been a bit skeptical.
-The room is not booby trapped.
-You and your rival may not kill or greatly harm one another, but he is faster and stronger than you. He could easily overpower you if he wanted.
-You and your rival are actually good friends when not hunting archeological finds. As such, you know many of his secrets, as well as he knowing many of your own.
-A small tribe of natives are right outside, within hearing range. They are quick to anger and are armed. Fortunately, they will let you have the idol and both of you can speak their language, but you speak it more fluently.
-The room is weakened. If you take too long a time trying to convince him to let you have it, the room may collapse, killing you both

[Kaji]

Try to wake up cause it's a dream. :)

The dream assumption is just handy, isn't it? :)

So is the Matrix argument, "Oh, they're just 0's and 1's... yeah and there's no spoon."

And the famous last words in D&D, "I attempt to disbelief!"


Both you and your rival have both found a gold idol you have both been searching for. Before either of you grab it, you suddenly spot each other and come together before the idol. Using any method you can, find a way to make it outside with the idol.
-You are rivals, not enemies. Killing him is entirely out of the question, whether intentional or not, as is causing major harm to one another.
-There is a legend of a curse around the idol. Your rival doesn't know what it is, but he has always been a bit skeptical.
-The room is not booby trapped.
-You and your rival may not kill or greatly harm one another, but he is faster and stronger than you. He could easily overpower you if he wanted.
-You and your rival are actually good friends when not hunting archeological finds. As such, you know many of his secrets, as well as he knowing many of your own.
-A small tribe of natives are right outside, within hearing range. They are quick to anger and are armed. Fortunately, they will let you have the idol and both of you can speak their language, but you speak it more fluently.
-The room is weakened. If you take too long a time trying to convince him to let you have it, the room may collapse, killing you both

Simple! Be a gentleman and let my friend have the idol and get the heck out. Winning a rivalry and possibly also fame is not worth risking my life and my friend's life. To me, this is really a no-brainer and something I would do myself without much thinking.

Alternative option:

Here I assume that "Fortunately, they will let you have the idol" means they will let either of me or my friend have the idol.

In this case, suggest to my friend, speaking loudly in the tribe's language, to carry the idol together out of the room and when we're both safe then discuss who gets the idol. The tribe would hopefully honour our agreement and if my friend goes out alone with the idol he would risk being punished by the tribe.

After getting out with the idol together, now what? Don't make the assumption that only one person can claim the idol for himself! Why not present to the world that both of us found it, with independent efforts on each of our own? Both of us could tell our own stories of how we competed and happened to find it in the same second. If the idol goes to a museum both our names will be honoured. If the idol is to be sold then we two will share the proceeds. If Person A wants to sell it and the Person B doesn't want to, Person B can buy it off Person A at a mutually agreed price.

Besides, the goal was to "find a way to make it outside with the idol". There was no requirement on who gets to own the idol after making it out of the room.

[Ghurdrich]

I'm not so much of a gentleman as Kaji, and my ego is too bloated to just hand over the idol. Therefore I will use what I can to score it for myself. Maybe I'll let him touch it later.
At any rate, I would encourage us both to take the idol out of the room so as to avoid being trapped and/or killed inside. Afterwards, I would do what I can, outside of plain view, to re-enact the curse, or a curse in general, with the help of some of the natives. For example, I would give my friend possession of the idol for a day, and have his wallet stolen. Or have him 'misplace' the key to his room, or put things in his food. At such a time where I obtain possession of the idol, I would return all of his things to him, subtly, and he would be none the wiser.
If we have to call dibs before we make it out of the room, just tell me and I'll come up with something more suitable.

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

Hmm...I'm liking this psychological aspect I put in here. Kaji, while I do enjoy what you came up with, it's a tad dull and anti-climactic. Ghurd, you answer is fine as is, but feel free to edit it as you see fit, though I MAY give you more bonus points if you do so.......

[Kaji]

Hmm...I'm liking this psychological aspect I put in here. Kaji, while I do enjoy what you came up with, it's a tad dull and anti-climactic.

Dull and anti-climactic? Definitely! Many real-life problems are best solved with a simple solution. I deal with them everyday and cannot afford to be too exciting and climactic with them. :)

I think what you're bringing in is not only psychological but also has an ethical aspect, which I personally like. Well, true ethical dilemmas are rare in practice, so solutions for ethics-relevant problems are often simple and, as you said, dull and anti-climactic.

Conflicts and unethical people are the essence of drama, but in life, people tend to avoid them unless necessary.

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

Kaji, your respect points fromme have gone up 2 and dropped one. Up two because I liked your answer, but dropped one for not potentially giving a new one

[LemenEX]

So, what's not in my favour? I'm not meant to kill or harm him, We've got company in form of a tribe of ... lemme guess - man-eaters? Also there is a curse and the ceiling of the cave gonna collapse any moment.

So it's simple: First, he can get it, in order to activate any sort of traps/curses/whatever (yea, I know that this is kinda assholish, but geez, I wanna live, goddammit xD) and then we dodge those things, whatever kind of rolling boulder, poisonous arrows and whatnot it is.

So he grabs it and we run for our freaking lifes. Outside the cave, the tribe.
This one gave me headaches. The easiest method would be just trying to blow them away with sheer weaponry, but reality tought me that mass of enemies > powerful weapons. So this is outta the question.
Well, I, as a pretty damn clever (!) archaeologist, happen to got a golden amulet of their most important god/goddess with me. Those kind of things always impress such inka-ish cannibals :D
They see it, drop to their knees, praying to us, while giving us the precious time to make our safe escape.

At the hotel or whatever sort of hideout we've got, I get to activate Plan 2 of my evil chain of greed xD
I let him take it, pretending I just wanted to live through this adventure while I don't care for the idol at all. Guess what, just kidding :D
Actually, I put some of those sleeping-tablettes in his glass and let him drink it. After he wakes up, I was gone, leaving him a sheet of paper there, saying "Suck in it, Pal :D", while I am sitting in my plane towards the rest of my rich life, never to be found again :D

I know, my story is beyond awesome and typical cliché :rolleyes:



As for you, Gilgamesh: My radio-story was far superior to your pan of magic :3

[CHOCOBO]

i would out smart him i would distract him while he isn't looking i would put it in a little bag (i ALWAYS carry one) i would say i would look for it but when the building is about to collapse we would run out and i would have it!!!

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

Lemen, there's quite a bit you're missing. Number one, He's smarter than you think, and would probably smell something is up when your offering to give it to him even though you've both been hunting it for a while. Number 2, The room isn't booby trapped at all. Number three, he's still your friend in real life. Not only could he track you down easily, but your own moral conscience wouldn't lead to that. You have to get the idol without him wanting it or changing his mind later. Number four, what kind of curse is on it. For all you have told us about it, it could be one of those Good news bad news curses like the one placed on the Juggernaut

[LemenEX]

Lemen, there's quite a bit you're missing. Number one, He's smarter than you think, and would probably smell something is up when your offering to give it to him even though you've both been hunting it for a while.

You never clearified that he is smart at all :rolleyes:
In your little story you just said that he was stronger and faster :rolleyes:


The room isn't booby trapped at all

How 'bout you give then an example of the traps, if my poisonous arrows and rolling boulders aren't enough :D



Not only could he track you down easily

It matters how well you hide yourself and how well you take on a new identity. That's the easiest step.



but your own moral conscience wouldn't lead to that

Wanna bet? :D


About the curse... I always thought that old curses are like - they destroy you from within, i.e. you have no luck at all, lose your house and family, ruining you in the process.
Something like that. But if you sell it away fast enough - who cares?! :D

Sry bout the curse, didn't bother clarifying that one
As for the other points - gotta think a while about it nao :(

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

There are no traps. None. 0 traps in that room. No boulders, no poison arrows, no nothing. I made it like that intentionally.

[LemenEX]

There are no traps. None. 0 traps in that room. No boulders, no poison arrows, no nothing. I made it like that intentionally.

But... I want arrows and boulders, just for the cliché D:
Can't I have some? :3

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

No. No booby trapping