My WoL Build

[swanton141]

i made this build just for fun and it works for the most part. there are a lot of sacrifices that were tough to make but, you know how it goes. i call it "EX Vampire".

Abilities:
Off- brave-dayflash, asscension/rune saber,red fang. crossover/rune saber, shield strike/bitter end, rising buckler/bitter end.
HP-shield of light, shining wave. shield of light, radiant sword.

Basic-Actions-ground evasion, midair evasion, ground block, midair block, aerial recovery, free air dash, speed boost++
Support-always target indicator, ex core lock on,
Extra- Achy+, magic shield, physical shield, sneak atk, back to the wall, EXP to HP

Equip-Ragnarok, Lufernian set (EX gauge depletion+15%)

Accessories-dismay shock x2, despair shock, Empty Ex gauge, after summon (you), summon unused (you), after summon (them) summon unused (them), force begets courage, rebellious soul.

i can suck about 65% of there EX away in 1 hp attack. i greatly accept opinions but dont bag hard on it. i was bored and this is what i came up with.

[533787655464]

Hmmm.... This would be pretty good against pure Ex-Builds, especially people like Gabranth, they would be shitting themselves each time they got hit, so I'd only really use it as a secondary build, as once you deplete their Ex, It cant go down much lower than zero.

[Spike]

Also good against Kefka and other mages and characters who have alot of ex mode boosts. People tend to use ex builds for those who have great ex mode bonuses.. :D

[Kite]

really?

day flash and red fang?

2 of his most useless moves?

also, is there ever a reason to equip bitterend, seeing how you can combo into runesaber anyway?

also, ragnarok is a pretty useless weapon

always target indicator does nothing

get omni air dash >.>

Counterattack > sneak attack

white fang and blue fang > all

I personally think radiant swords is a horrible move, but okay

ground sheild of light is pretty useless

I applaud the fact that youre using a force begets courage build, though your boosters need alot of work

[Keftalin20Satalazz]

really?

day flash and red fang?

2 of his most useless moves?

also, is there ever a reson to equip rune saber?

also, ragnarok is a pretty useless weapon

always target indicator does nothing

get omni air dash >.>

Counterattack > sneak attack

white fang and blue fang > all

I personally think radiant swords is a horrible move, but okay

ground sheild of light is pretty useless

I applaud the fact that youre using a force begets courage build, though your boosters need alot of work


what do you mean by 'rune saber is useless''? the ascension lance?

I agree, I think OAD is better than FAD. [if you're used to OAD]

[Kite]

wait, I lie, I meant bitter end

fix'd

[RDFMASTER]

really?

day flash and red fang?

2 of his most useless moves?

also, is there ever a reason to equip bitterend, seeing how you can combo into runesaber anyway?

also, ragnarok is a pretty useless weapon

always target indicator does nothing

get omni air dash >.>

Counterattack > sneak attack

white fang and blue fang > all

I personally think radiant swords is a horrible move, but okay

ground sheild of light is pretty useless

I applaud the fact that youre using a force begets courage build, though your boosters need alot of work


Prove me that Dayflash is useless PROVE IT :P

[ShineThatLight]

really?

day flash and red fang?

2 of his most useless moves?

also, is there ever a reason to equip bitterend, seeing how you can combo into runesaber anyway?
Only in EX mode can you not, but he has no EX mode, Bitter End is still more guaranteed for wallrush in most cases though.

also, ragnarok is a pretty useless weapon

always target indicator does nothing

get omni air dash >.>

Counterattack > sneak attack
Not on WoL, plus most people online disable counter anyways. But if this is vs comps you should have both.

white fang and blue fang > all

I personally think radiant swords is a horrible move, but okay
You're a horrible move, get out of my apartment you balding baldy

ground sheild of light is pretty useless
Try stopping landing lag combos or ground dodges without it. Stfu

I applaud the fact that youre using a force begets courage build, though your boosters need alot of work


Kumo, stop teh trollin' all your points are invalid.
Bolded parts are places you can put your mouth, and suck it.

Back to the build at hand, take off Red Fang please.
Omni Air Dash would probably help you.
Equip some Pearl Necklaces if you want to get more out of this build. (they will give you more brave from the EX)
Heaven's Cloud > Ragnarok
All in all, not a bad concept. But it would work better on another character. WoL's Exmode is near godly.

Also. Magic and Physical shields are pretty useless, buuuuut to each their own. And replace one of the Dismay Shocks' with a decent 1.5 multiplier.

[Keftalin20Satalazz]

yeah bitter end is pretty useless.
you'll end up your combo into a crossover=rune saber anyway.

[AwesomeXRockso]

Well, I found this HP attack more optional instead of useless, it can come in handy sometimes, like deBreak yourself.

[Keftalin20Satalazz]

does the combo work 100 percent?
sometimes when fighting AI, they can often block the second move or dodge out of it. But most of the time when fighting players, it works.

[RDFMASTER]

does the combo work 100 percent?
sometimes when fighting AI, they can often block the second move or dodge out of it. But most of the time when fighting players, it works.

You saying bitter end is useless?

Which of them side there is A and B.

i usually disable B for more CP but bitter A has his use xD

You have to time the combo right,

You can use Dodge Cancel or Time Cancel.

[AwesomeXRockso]

I Agree, I've faced the demonstration :D

[Keftalin20Satalazz]

You saying bitter end is useless?

Which of them side there is A and B.

i usually disable B for more CP but bitter A has his use xD

You have to time the combo right,

You can use Dodge Cancel or Time Cancel.

I'm doing it right but sometimes the AI can block/dodge before the second move

[Kite]

its a perfect combo when done right and only escapable if the timing is off or you used the wrong dodge

I equip no bitterends, as the only stage where youd ever need to would be ulti's castle

[Hollowed]

Rune Sabre is dodgable if Ascension/Crossover causes ceiling Wall Rush. Sometimes it's easier to Wall Rush with Bitter End, too. I wouldn't remove both of them.

[Kite]

its not if you can time the runesaber correctly, which is alot more fun and does alot more damage than going for a bitterend would

[Keftalin20Satalazz]

Rune Sabre is dodgable if Ascension/Crossover causes ceiling Wall Rush. Sometimes it's easier to Wall Rush with Bitter End, too. I wouldn't remove both of them.

you dont use rune saber immediately after your the wallrush damage, that way you can still hit with it. [wallrush brave, wallrush hp] nie one

[Spike]

IMo bitter end is not useless since IMO some stages have low ceilings which help in choosing whether to use Bitter end and Rune saber. But bitter end is better in these types of areas. I know that you can delay pressing squar in those stages but I still prefer Bitter end in those stages. Correct me if I'm wrong though...

[533787655464]

Shouldn't this be it's own thread? I don't think anyone is actually discussing the original post lol

[Hollowed]

you dont use rune saber immediately after your the wallrush damage, that way you can still hit with it. [wallrush brave, wallrush hp] nie one
If you delay Rune Saber to after they dodge, can you still hit? Hmm...I've never tried that.

[Tsuken-]

No you cant, the best way is to wait a while, and let them recover from the wall rush a little. Then you go for [].

[RDFMASTER]

If you delay Rune Saber to after they dodge, can you still hit? Hmm...I've never tried that.

OK, guys i will give you the answer of how you should do it.

In minute 1:04 i did not expect to get to the Roof so fast reason why i miss the timing xD

Now, in 1:45 is where you can watch how rune saver in roof should be timed.

YouTube- [Shadow Strike Tactics Tournament] RDF (WoL) vs. Demitel (Terra) Match 2 [Round 1] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArHzuhrcYC4)

[AwesomeXRockso]

Yeah.....i see now, thx again for this new hints :D

[EX-calibre]

Bitter End is better, an ill-timed Rune Saber can be dodged by aerial recovery w/ controlled recovery (correct me on this btw-it works on AI), and rune saber has its casualties, I would still go for bitter end(FLEXIBILITY):)

[Spike]

Bitter End is better, an ill-timed Rune Saber can be dodged by aerial recovery w/ controlled recovery (correct me on this btw-it works on AI), and rune saber has its casualties, I would still go for bitter end(FLEXIBILITY):)

Even auto-recovery+ controlled recovery can evade rune saber if hit with some delay.

[TKG09]

Both Rune Saber and Bitter End have their uses imo.
Back to the original post

i made this build just for fun and it works for the most part. there are a lot of sacrifices that were tough to make but, you know how it goes. i call it "EX Vampire".

Abilities:
Off- brave-dayflash, asscension/rune saber,red fang. crossover/rune saber, shield strike/bitter end, rising buckler/bitter end.
HP-shield of light, shining wave. shield of light, radiant sword.

Basic-Actions-ground evasion, midair evasion, ground block, midair block, aerial recovery, free air dash, speed boost++
Support-always target indicator, ex core lock on,
Extra- Achy+, magic shield, physical shield, sneak atk, back to the wall, EXP to HP

Equip-Ragnarok, Lufernian set (EX gauge depletion+15%)

Accessories-dismay shock x2, despair shock, Empty Ex gauge, after summon (you), summon unused (you), after summon (them) summon unused (them), force begets courage, rebellious soul.

i can suck about 65% of there EX away in 1 hp attack. i greatly accept opinions but dont bag hard on it. i was bored and this is what i came up with.

If u get sum better boosters u might reach an EX Gauge Depletion of 100%, but thats only gonna b useful against Garbranth

[Spike]

Also, you can try to remove Bitter end with the shield attack that goes down (forgot the name) because you can combo it into either cross over or the shield attack that goes up. That way, you can save 20Cp.

Also, replace Ragnarok! That is one useless sword. Better stick to Heaven's Cloud or other weapons. That +25% physical damage is worthless! it only adds like about 5-10 damage...

[533787655464]

Put a Pearl Necklace in, Equip Heavens cloud. It would put it as a sort of BRV Absorb build aswell, Take away some Summon boosters, only 2 will be active at a time, I would say use After Summon on self and them, because your build seems sort of "Stretch the battle" type of thing, taking away their use of Ex Mode, lengthening your survival and what not.

[RDFMASTER]

Also, you can try to remove Bitter end with the shield attack that goes down (forgot the name) because you can combo it into either cross over or the shield attack that goes up. That way, you can save 20Cp.

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This is what i usually do for any tourney match xD
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Even auto-recovery+ controlled recovery can evade rune saber if hit with some delay.


Only happen if you are guest, instead of being host Any WoL player need to host if they really don't want Rune Saver to miss. Since you need timing, each lag change when to use rune-saver. Lag is another issue which make the timing be change if you are guest.

The only time you should give this priority is to zidane player due to tempest glitch.