Yuna Character Discussion

[SilvaKairi]

Yep yep, here Discuss watever about our beloved Yuna! ^.^
(there will be a better intro added later on)

[Aryo]

Yuna so far seems decent. She has dominating mid-range attacks but all her attacks can be anticipated (bu her shouting their name) and some of her long range braveries are relatively weak.
Her hp attacks are really god though especially ixion's as it stays out a bit and could be a great counter to other hp attacks.

[SilvaKairi]

by watching Kaya fight Yuna CPU, i get the feelling Yuna will have a hard match up against Firon and exdeath.

[Repliica]

Yuna seems extremely vulnerable at close range. Tifa made sure of that, I'm no0b with her right now so I'm still trying to pick her up therefore it could just be me playing her wrong. But everytime Tifa got in close she could pummel Yuna and I couldn't really get in any decent attacks unless I had range. Ifrit and Shiva only do so much, I prefer to use Valefor and Bahamut.. :3

[SilvaKairi]

heh i'll be playing Yuna too (As soon as i find that PSP of mine)

[Repliica]

Yay! I think I'll be picking up the Yuna FAQ this time but I'm not sure just yet. Maybe we could team up Tabi :D I would be playing Yuna now but I'm trying to get through Story mode first :3

[SilvaKairi]

Oooooo Us Teaming up sounds Good :3
(we using same pic as our siggy ^.^)

[Aryo]

Yay! I think I'll be picking up the Yuna FAQ this time but I'm not sure just yet. Maybe we could team up Tabi :D I would be playing Yuna now but I'm trying to get through Story mode first :3

I've got the game and could easily record or help if you need anything in particular

[holy0crux]

Would you guys say Yuna is somewhat like a less mobile Kuja? XP I don't have the games, but placement with Yuna looks just as important with placement with Kuja...

In what range/situations does Yuna excel? In what range/situations does Yuna lack?

[SilvaKairi]

Well currently idk, but after a few gameplay testing we should be able to tell, but based on Kaya's Vid and wat i been hearing in IRC, her close range sounds horrible.

[Repliica]

Would you guys say Yuna is somewhat like a less mobile Kuja? XP I don't have the games, but placement with Yuna looks just as important with placement with Kuja...

In what range/situations does Yuna excel? In what range/situations does Yuna lack?

Yeeah, that's pretty much it. Once somebody gets in close she's pretty much open for the kill. Good example was I took on Tifa, of course she's a fighter and needs to be in close a majority of the time so I was having to juggle attacks and distance. Of course the only option you really have when they're in close is to block or get rid of them with Ifrit, follow up with Valefor/Bahamut. They're the main distance attackers.

Placement is sort of important with Yuna, I mean I could easily land attacks with Valefor and Ifrit but it was a different story with Shiva. I needed to have her distance pretty accurate and it sucks if you allow an attack to miss because it gives the opponent a chance to charge in. Her cool down time from attacks can be a short while for some but that short while is pretty much enough for them to dash in, of course that's dependent on their distance. Yuna excels about mid range if you ask me, going from Ifrit > Valefor or Bahamut is a nice easy combo. In close she just sucks.

[SilvaKairi]

Im Unsure, but in Kaya's Vid the CPU seem to have Managed to combo Heavenly Strike -> Diamond Dust
but kaya didnt try to dodge the moment she was wall rushed to the ground.

[holy0crux]

So rather than Kuja, who attacks according to his range, Yuna needs to adjust range according to her attacks...

Thanks for the input~ I know it's a bit early...but I'm so hype. The fact I can type a coherent sentence is astonishing. I think this whole ask a bunch of questions is calming me down...

[Repliica]

Sooort of, it really just comes down to what attack you use. Sadly it's early days so I can't really go into much detail seeing as Yuna was only level 1 with level 1 attacks haha but from what I had I gathered pretty much that. Distance is just the safest way to play Yuna..

And that's okay with the questions :D I understand how you feel. I'm feeling the hype too. I'm going through story mode though so my leveling up of Yuna shall have to come later tonight. Hopefully then I'll be able to answer more questions that you might have :D

[SilvaKairi]

Ok a Few things :3

It seems Valefor is better then Bahumut D:
Sonic Wing Covers a lot of Ground. and is very quick.
Sonic Wings doesn't cause stun when its guarded.
Energy Ray Hits in a Stright line, but ignores how high your opponent is.
-PrismRed

[red ice]

Would you guys say Yuna is somewhat like a less mobile Kuja? XP I don't have the games, but placement with Yuna looks just as important with placement with Kuja...

In what range/situations does Yuna excel? In what range/situations does Yuna lack?

YUna's Medium to Long Range is gonna be her game. CLOSE RANGE , definitely not. Tifa seems to pwn her everytime. I have already gotten the feel of all new characters, but Yuna just kept on failing me. I think you're right Yuna's a Less Mobile Kuja.

One more thing: Whenever she calls Bahamut for Brave attack. It occupies the whole center screen. SO its very dangerous to use it unless you know Bahamut's projectile range.

I still get a feeling with more practice, Yuna can be a fierce competitor.

[Grade-Zero]

I've managed to try her out, only level one so far though. I'm not liking her close range like others have said. Shiva's brave attack has good startup, but having really low priority hurts it a lot as well as the long cooldown. I can't really get the hang of her.

[red ice]

ok. I take back my previous doubts about Yuna. seems a little getting used to is all it takes. Battles make more sense now. I stay at medium range in order to maximize shiva and valefor's brave hits . Taking Yuna too far is not a good strategy at all

[Repliica]

I'm with you Red ! haha, I take back a few things I said about her. She just takes some getting used to. I've managed to level Yuna to 20 hopefully I'll have a level 100 Yuna in the next few days. Energy Ray definitely ignores the height of the opponent which is a plus but its linear attack makes it easy for human players to dodge unless already in attack. I managed to easily take down Firion with Energy Ray..

I'm not liking how her aerial brave attacks are close range. Ixion and Shiva, I'm aware you get Bahamut later but it'd be nice to have him now. Valefor pretty much plays as your main Aeon.. Ifrit and Shiva coming out to play when your opponent is in close proximity.

[Cloud of Darkness]

She seems very interesting... I had heard she would be very beginner friendly though, and you guys make her sound like she will take some getting used to... Which I personally like, I still think her style will be good once it is figured out, I kind of like her placing requirement to be honest, it makes you think before you use an aeon carelessly.
Anyways, how are her HP attacks aside from Energy Ray and Mega Flare? I was wondering, does she have a Diamond Dust HP?

[SilvaKairi]

Yes She has Diamond dust for an HP

[Ghurdrich]

So I thought Yuna was terribly boring, but then I went through her level 50 arcade mode, and I noticed a lot of good things. Her range is really improved with Ixion on the ground and Valefor in the air. Not to mention Diamond Dust is a waaaay better HP attack than Aerospark. Still trying to get enough PP to unlock level 100 arcade mode, but it seems like her higher level attacks are a lot better (and less boring) than the ones you start out with.

[SilvaKairi]

Yes, i say her best moves are Sonic Wing and Heavenly Strike :3

[Meroki]

So how does Diamond Dust work? Haven't seen any videos of it yet. I'm pretty sure she tried to pull it out during the EU tournament video but was interrupted before we could see anything.

Also, does she have anything in the way of "GTFO" type attacks? Like something to knock away enemies that get too close so she can get back into her preferred range.

[SilvaKairi]

Ummm the closest i can think of is Meteor Strike, for ground and Heavenly Strike for Air.

[Ghurdrich]

From what I can see, Ifrit's slash attack (I don't know what this one is called) is a really good GTFO move. In all honesty so is Heavenly Strike and Sonic Wings, like Tabi said. Almost all of her BRV attacks (except Shiva, which floor rushes right in front of you.) But as far as something on the level of Ulty's Knight Spear, no, as far as I know, there isn't anything as good (or as close range) as that. Best you're gonna get is Ixion, I'd say. Of course, maybe she has more attacks than I know about (I just play arcade mode)

Anyways, Tabithia knows what she's talking about. I don't. So I'll leave it to her xD

[SilvaKairi]

OK Heres a bit of some Basic Info on Her Attacks

Bravery Attack
Meteor Strike (Good attack, and comes out at an ok speed.)
Energy Blast (Shooting out 5 quick projectiles is better then 4)
Aerospark (Another good move, it comes out in front of yuna very quickly and charges at opponent)
Impulse (Very horrible in my opinion, uncharged shoots out 1 projectile, while charged shoots out 4, all which can be reflected at you)
Heavenly Strike (This is Basically an air Version of Meteor Strike but spamable)
Sonic Wing (A must have in Yuna's Arsenal, comes out quick, and doesnt stagger Yuna when blocked)

HP Attack
Hellfire ( An ok attack, creates a wall to shield you in front, though good for people getting to close to you)
Energy Ray (A good attack, though it only attacks in straight line, it ignores the height of your opponent.)
Mega Flare (Better then the Brav Attack, this is kinda like CoD's O Form, but it only fires in a straight line, and has reflecting properties.)
Thor's Hammer ( Kinda like Hellfire, though a bit worse, should you miss, the cooldown time can cause a punish on you.)
Diamond Dust (A very simple attack, Shiva Wips up a Chunk of Ice in front of her)

[Meroki]

Does Mega Flare have decent tracking? I couldn't really tell from the videos I've seen, since Jecht basically shut down Bahamut with Jecht Block, and the other times I've seen her use it had her firing in a straight line only.

[SilvaKairi]

Sadly no, it doesnt track, it fires in a straight line, but Yuna can position herself before he attacks.
But its cooldown is pretty short.

[Aryo]

OK Heres a bit of some Basic Info on Her Attacks

Bravery Attack
Meteor Strike (Good attack, and comes out at an ok speed.)
Energy Blast (Shooting out 5 quick projectiles is better then 4)
Aerospark (Another good move, it comes out in front of yuna very quickly and charges at opponent)
Impulse (Very horrible in my opinion, uncharged shoots out 1 projectile, while charged shoots out 4, all which can be reflected at you)
Heavenly Strike (This is Basically an air Version of Meteor Strike but spamable)
Sonic Wing (A must have in Yuna's Arsenal, comes out quick, and doesnt stagger Yuna when blocked)

HP Attack
Hellfire ( An ok attack, creates a wall to shield you in front, though good for people getting to close to you)
Energy Ray (A good attack, though it only attacks in straight line, it ignores the height of your opponent.)
Mega Flare (Better then the Brav Attack, this is kinda like CoD's O Form, but it only fires in a straight line, and has reflecting properties.)
Thor's Hammer ( Kinda like Hellfire, though a bit worse, should you miss, the cooldown time can cause a punish on you.)
Diamond Dust (A very simple attack, Shiva Wips up a Chunk of Ice on your opponent location, though escapable)

Here's a quick reference translation as well.

YUNA

Bravery
メテオストライク = Meteor Strike
エアロスパーク = Aerospark
シューティング・パワー = Energy Blast
ソニックウィング = Sonic wing
天からの一撃 = Heavenly Strike
インパルス = Impulse

HP
地獄の火炎 = Hellfire
シューティング・レイ = Energy ray
トールハンマー = Thor's Hammer
ダイアモンドダスト = Diamond dust
メガフレア = Mega Flare

[Repliica]

Diamond Dust brave attack sucks if you ask me (I'm a hater for her in close bravery attacks in the air XD), it's definitely better than Thor's Hammer because it has a tiny bit more range. But Thor's Hammer seems to be more effective on opponents that like to rush in, it's pretty much a trap and opponents are pulled into it.

Much agreed with her higher leveled attacks being better. She's easier to play once you unlock her later moves. Still upset that her in close attacks get rid of the opponent, makes it harder to link attacks (yeah Ifrit, I'm looking at you XD) Shiva's heavenly strike is probably the best to get in a link attack.. though I haven't succeeded with that yet haha. I'm having more fun playing Tifa so my Yuna gameplay is on hold.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uev9RnPpO8E&feature=channel_video_title

Just to show you guys some of her earlier moves. I've unlocked pretty much all her moves now so I'll post an updated video tomorrow at some point. (:

[Cloud of Darkness]

Can you link Heavenly Strike off of an Assist Chase? I noticed you tried Bahamut's Impulse when you did an Assist Chase, but I didn't understand why when you could probably use Heavenly Strike for wall rush etc.

I really like how Energy Strike looks. It seems like it will put long range Magic users in their place if they can't move while casting a certain spell...
So Diamond Dust isn't too great =(
Is it like Shantotto's Freeze HP?

[SilvaKairi]

Few Update:

Bahamut's Mega Flare can actually track.
Valefor's Energy Ray can actually move a bit its beam, so it isnt really a straight line.
Shiva's Diamond Dust Does the attack infront of her.

and 2 Yuna Vids i requested from NeroMD ^.^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkcB6p5Cl-k&feature=feedu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT5-LAX0gTE&feature=feedu

[salmon king]

I'd also like to point out the Ixion's aerospark guard staggers, unless I missed a post or something. :s

Yuna was pretty tough to play at first, but like you guys have mentioned she feels more formidable when you unlock her later moves. Ifrit has slight vertical tracking with meteor strike, meaning if your opponent is in front/slightly above you, meteor strike can still hit.

Shiva's heavenly strike is actually crazy fun to use against mages when they're casting, with an assist follow up and an HP/BRV finisher it feels really satisfying. Ifrit's hellfire is quite good in my opinion just 'cause it acts as a shield and covers a great deal of the space in the air. Bahamut's impulse uncharged is pretty good for breaking an opponent that's distant since it tracks at a decent speed.

A few more things... Yuna is pretty awesome in cramped areas since most of her HP attacks go through walls/objects. I've used Valefor's energy ray through some thick walls and still hit an opponent. Shiva's diamond dust comes out fast, but it's pretty short ranged and somewhat slow if it misses, so I don't use it much.

[shakotan_strafer]

yuna is pretty beast in stages like palamecias castle, moves like ifrits meteor strike (hellfire?) can create a nice wall in corners of a stage, trapping them very easily.

and also, i would like to make a proposal, would you guys like to start a yuna guide/faq thread? just somewhere for all important information about her gameplay (for those of us that have the game already, as im sure since the usa version is so close of, there wouldnt be any changes/balances) im pretty sure that if we work together on it, as a community it would be pretty sick. i wouldnt mind making the thread and editing it.

tl;dr?
yunas beast on tight stages, and lets make a yuna guide.

[Zane]

For assist with Yuna, Tidus is pretty good on the ground. When it comes to the air the whole chase thing is nice if you want EX.

I've been testing on AI if someone wants to test these on humans feel free, just give credits were its do please thanks.:)

So far I like Cecil's air brave attack. Radiant Wings.

I noticed when using Firon that as long as the opponent's feet are off the ground Cecil will do Radiant Wings.

This good for Yuna because Cecil's Radiant Wings smacks them around enough for you to step up you're next move.


All her summons lift the opponent off the ground or at least their feet.
so its Radiant Wings smack down free for all.

It works like this Ifrit, does his first brave attack as soon as you see/hear the hit call Cecil for RD & do whatever you like.

Now can someone get out of this, so far if you right on cue then no. So even without a wall its not worthless move.

IXion I'll call the move lighting strike.

This move I really like, it can act like a dodge VS some moves like Cloud's
Meteorain ground or air.

Now this move with assist works the same with the Ifrit combo but better.

Why? Two reasons, one IXion guard staggers two, this move has noticeable amount of stun time on the first hit. (After doing some more testing, this seems to be her only brave attack with stun time on it.)

So like before do the first hit and then call Cecil, as long as the opponent's feet are off the ground he'll do Radiant Wings.

Now Valefor's ground attack the only way to combo of this is, call Cecil as soon as it hits, any later and Cecil is in for a hit.

Air Brave attacks

Shiva, first off she has some vertical range to her, Yuna still has to be close but not right on them she can have a little space hang around them either over them or below them . Just halo around them with her. The range is a little longer then Yuna's legs. It ends in front of her feet were you see the ice forum.

Like the other Aeons, Cecil can combo off of heavy strike the trick is do it before the opponent hits the ground. Tho if your close to wall go with Shadow lance if you want.

If you call Cecil before they hit the ground, he'll still hit em with RD even if the hit the ground so its a win, win for you.

Valefor's Sonic wings Do the first hit then call Cecil for a combo.
Any later and bye bye assist pal.


Big bad Bahamut: Impulse. When the move is changed up it guard staggers at point blank range.

Then you could call Cecil in for the smack down.

Other then that I'm having a real hard time combing off this move, if it had some stun on it I could do something with it.

Maybe someone here can.

Not I didn't really talk about using Dark Knight Cecil as an assist. This is because all of the Aeons' ground moves pick the opponent up off the ground.

I would not use assist after HP attacks unless you wall rush the opponent, since they lock

Will add a video of this later, but if someone could test this on AHP with a friend and upload it that would be better. I would but I cannot get on AHP anytime soon.:(

As for the FAQ idea, I would like to wait tell US version is out, as we are all just messing around with Japanese version right now.

With US version more people will have it and more people can help out, and will be able to read everything. I'm all for helping out with it.

[Kirby1112]

I'm really looking forward to Yuna, one of my favorite FF characters next to Faris.

Yuna's probably going to be my new main. She just looks like so much fun.

[shakotan_strafer]

has anyone noticed how good of an assist laguna is? not just for yuna but for most characters. after using heavenly strike, they fall to the ground, as soon as they touch the ground, call in laguna (machinegun). your pretty much guaranteed a thors hammer or diamond dust (still have to test mega flare, but i imagine that it would work). testing more assists later tonight.

[Hollowed]

Very useful guide, shakotan_strafer! How did you get the frame data for Yuna? I would love to have them for the other characters as well.

[shakotan_strafer]

ahh, i used virtual dub do that, its quite a long process to do in writing for this post, so ill make a tutorial in the duodecim discussion today so other people can do it.

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frame guide added hollowed.

[RionNagase]

Anyone who uses Yuna try this move, it is amazing. It's a Link Glitch with Yuna

I call it Blizzard Impact

Make sure your opponent is withing reasonable range for Bahamut's Impulse attack. Have it Charged and fire it. All of the orbs have to hit before or after the first orb hits use Shiva's Heavenly Strike and continue pressing the button as if Shiva will still attack, if you are successful, Shiva will summon a block of ice and smack them onto the floor.

[holy0crux]

Anyone who uses Yuna try this move, it is amazing. It's a Link Glitch with Yuna

I call it Blizzard Impact

Make sure your opponent is withing reasonable range for Bahamut's Impulse attack. Have it Charged and fire it. All of the orbs have to hit before or after the first orb hits use Shiva's Heavenly Strike and continue pressing the button as if Shiva will still attack, if you are successful, Shiva will summon a block of ice and smack them onto the floor.

I know it sounds weird, but do you think it would work with most of Yuna's other Aeons? Bahamut's Charged Impulse > Ixion's Aerospark Link Glitch Combo?

If the stage were small enough to bounce some of Valefor's Energy Blast off the walls, could you try Valefor's Energy Blast > Ixion's Aerospark as a Link Glitch Combo?

[shakotan_strafer]

GREAT FIND MAN, ADDED TO GUIDE
/excitement
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I know it sounds weird, but do you think it would work with most of Yuna's other Aeons? Bahamut's Charged Impulse > Ixion's Aerospark Link Glitch Combo?

If the stage were small enough to bounce some of Valefor's Energy Blast off the walls, could you try Valefor's Energy Blast > Ixion's Aerospark as a Link Glitch Combo?

tested the blizzard impact, the minimum range you can use it would be the span of chaos' stage (cant remmeber the name). on ex mode, its just 10x more effective. this changes yunas game a lot. testing other link glitches atm.

[SilvaKairi]

Anyone who uses Yuna try this move, it is amazing. It's a Link Glitch with Yuna

I call it Blizzard Impact

Make sure your opponent is withing reasonable range for Bahamut's Impulse attack. Have it Charged and fire it. All of the orbs have to hit before or after the first orb hits use Shiva's Heavenly Strike and continue pressing the button as if Shiva will still attack, if you are successful, Shiva will summon a block of ice and smack them onto the floor.

Nice find :3, i'll be doing a lot of Yuna playing on Monday ^.^ I'll give it a try then.

[Animax]

Aha, I likie this trick. Very nice.

[RionNagase]

I know it sounds weird, but do you think it would work with most of Yuna's other Aeons? Bahamut's Charged Impulse > Ixion's Aerospark Link Glitch Combo?

If the stage were small enough to bounce some of Valefor's Energy Blast off the walls, could you try Valefor's Energy Blast > Ixion's Aerospark as a Link Glitch Combo?

I'm glad everyone likes Blizzard Impact. I figured that only moves that had projectiles in them could link with Impulse, I thought of using Aerospark first but I had found that the timing was off and I couldn't reach the ground in time for Aerospark. No matter how much I tried I had problems, however when I used Heavenly Strike I found out that it worked perfectly especially in EX Mode. But when I tried out the idea of Energy Blast and Aerospark......well, it failed badly. Energy Blast dissipates upon impact of a wall so it can't bounce off walls. And the range and cooldown time of Energy Blast wasn't able to be synchronized into the attack, so Energy Blast and Aerospark is a bust. But at least Blizzard Impact is a great success, so I'm happy I can contribute to the cause.

[shakotan_strafer]

yeah, i had problems finding new combos, theoretically there shouldn't any more we can do brave attack wise, according to my frame data analysis anyway.

[RionNagase]

Exactly, however that didn't rule out Reversal Link Glitches. Hehe, I'm trying to perform them to try it out. An example of a Reversal Link Glitch is if I guard an opponent's projectile attack and use another move once their projectile hits them, it registers that as my move hitting them so the attack continues. So it may be fair game if I can force Lightning to hit herself with Watera so that Aerospark can attack her or Ultimecia's Knight's Axe. I'll check some possible Reversals.

[shakotan_strafer]

Exactly, however that didn't rule out Reversal Link Glitches. Hehe, I'm trying to perform them to try it out. An example of a Reversal Link Glitch is if I guard an opponent's projectile attack and use another move once their projectile hits them, it registers that as my move hitting them so the attack continues. So it may be fair game if I can force Lightning to hit herself with Watera so that Aerospark can attack her or Ultimecia's Knight's Axe. I'll check some possible Reversals.

was just heading to those hahas, ive got a dummy psp so i can try out specific attack link glitches pretty easily.

[RionNagase]

hahaha, oh wow. I guess great minds think alike~

[shakotan_strafer]

no talk, get working on finding link and combos!

[lulumage]

i really do hope that this could be yuna's dlc

option one-
http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy/images/0/03/FFX2psychic.jpg

option two-
http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy/images/3/3d/Ffx2-trainer.jpg

or option three-
http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy/images/5/56/Ffx2-whitemage.jpg

for i really do hope its the first option but i think its going to be the third..... =\

[shakotan_strafer]

did a quick test on characters with slow moving projectiles which can backfire on them, just of the top of my head i tested
-cloud
-lightning
-ulti
-laguna
i tried to link heavenly strike or aerospark, but no link ;(
i dont see much happening here :/ probably needs to have multiple hits to make it connect.
this was just a quick test, but if it worked it would be easy to execute, like blizzard impact. i see some potential in lagunas micro missiles, but other than that the closest thing that comes to mind straight away is a mirror match with yuna against charged impulse, which dosent get us anywhere -_-

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whats that first ds lulumage? never seen it before.

[RionNagase]

I found something strange, and it seems I'm right. Aerospark can fire six disks if you wait long enough before you press to continue the attack. So after the first hit, you should wait to accumulate the disk count to reach maximum (six disks).

[shakotan_strafer]

yeah, i noticed a change in the disks fired, but i didnt really look into it that much. thats why it dosent have a specific number on the guide hahas
but its good to know now, every damage counts!

[RionNagase]

It helps to know the max damage. Ehehe, I'm trying a different approach to the problem like adding an assist to add an extension to the attack, to form a Link Glitch. Since new mechanics have been added into the game, I assume assist can act as an extension to your attack. But that is only in theory of course.

[TWOxACROSS]

Assists actually do not help with Link Glitches, because they are a separate attack system that the game registers. A Link Glitch can happen because another attack of yours makes the connection while you're doing a different attack, but trying it from an Assist's won't work, because the game still differentiates between your attacks and the Assist's.

[RionNagase]

I see then. Well, I guess Yuna is fully set up as she is.

[shakotan_strafer]

I see then. Well, I guess Yuna is fully set up as she is.

i guess most of her game possibilities are laid out on the table already :/ unfortunately.
se did say this was a character geared more toward beginners anyway, so explains it.

[RionNagase]

I don't like the fact SE said Yuna is geared towards beginners, but I can't do anything about it. Maybe I can find more things about her. I mean I found that Energy Ray does get lowered down on ledges and it seems to scare the CPUs which is odd to me. Because the trail isn't all the way down on the floor it's all in midair.

[Lycoris]

In case no one is/played a really good Yuna, she's definitely going to be top tier material.

Ground BRVS-

Ifrit: Fast, Wallrushes a good distance and more importantly, it's used after an Ixion stagger for a free riposte hit.
Ixion: Most damaging ground attack, insane range, not a bad recovery. Staggers on block and can DC into Ifrit. Absolutely her best ground BRV.
Valefor: Not too good but has occasional punish side dodges. It's mostly for building meter.

Air BRV-

Shiva: Most broken vertical range ever. Goes almost as far as Jecht's charged kicks without the charging business. Wallrushes like a champ and has the start-up and cooldown of a broken move. Is broken. For sure. Can punish all sorts of crap after assist change too.
Valefor: Great range for punish and it's your melee move of the air. It also hurts and starts chase. Start-up is fairly quick and doesn't have a long cooldown. What more can you ask for?
Bahamut: Alternate for assist building with Shiva. Great keepaway move used in conjunction with Shiva and Valefor. Isn't godly, but damn useful.

Ground HP-
Ifrit: Your anti-air. And boy is it insane. For the record, it hits BRV and HP simultaneously. In fact, if you break them with this move, you'll hit with HP FIRST, so that you get the BRV pool after the HP. This makes it insane as you don't have to worry about being broken after HP.
Valefor: Lazurs pew pew. But it's great. Punished dodges in your face, or moves from afar. Your HP after an assist move that knocks them particularly far (like Sonic Buster of Tidus). Yeah, the hitbox is screwy in an awesome way, and it bends. Lots of win, just becareful how you use it.

Air HP-
Shiva: Diamond Dust is broken if used correctly. So I won't call it broken. I'll just call it insanely good. It's startup is as fast as free energy and does BRV damage. Probably your most landed HP. It's fast but the range is poor. Serves great mindgame purposes after wallrush.
Ixion: Not as godly as DiamondDust but still very good. Has slight suction which makes it insanely hard to get out of in a corner. It's also your HP of choice for punishing slower moves as DD has too short of a range. Or you could always...
Bahamut: It's like 0-Form, but much better. Much less start-up than CoD's version and the wallrush distance is still great. However, it doesn't turn and you have to move with bahamut. This move is really glitchy though, as the HP part misses quick a few times and often Bahamut gets stuck and Yuna will move without Bahamut. Another thing is that Yuna is on TOP of Bahamut, so a whiff is a free "PUNISH ME" sign. Still, the Pros outweigh the con.

Okay guys, really. Yuna has NO useless moves and for the most part, they're all godly. She's got the fast moves, she's got the unblockables and the insane HPs. She's got all the tools for top tier and all we need is a tournament to prove it. Not to mention I can't find any bad matchups for her. She even owns Zidane since she's midrange and Zidane is close range. Outta try Kuja, but Kuja will have a tough time killing her where her HPs are much better than Kuja. The hardest matchup for her so far I've fought tends to be Gilgy, but it's an even 5/5 at worst.

[shakotan_strafer]

yeah, thats weird, once it leads of an edge it sometimes stays linear and sometimes lowers a bit. massive mindgame potential here if we can figure out how to utilise it properly, if it has any combat viability at all, LOL.

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In case no one is/played a really good Yuna, she's definitely going to be top tier material.

Ground BRVS-

Ifrit: Fast, Wallrushes a good distance and more importantly, it's used after an Ixion stagger for a free riposte hit.
Ixion: Most damaging ground attack, insane range, not a bad recovery. Staggers on block and can DC into Ifrit. Absolutely her best ground BRV.
Valefor: Not too good but has occasional punish side dodges. It's mostly for building meter.

Air BRV-

Shiva: Most broken vertical range ever. Goes almost as far as Jecht's charged kicks without the charging business. Wallrushes like a champ and has the start-up and cooldown of a broken move. Is broken. For sure. Can punish all sorts of crap after assist change too.
Valefor: Great range for punish and it's your melee move of the air. It also hurts and starts chase. Start-up is fairly quick and doesn't have a long cooldown. What more can you ask for?
Bahamut: Alternate for assist building with Shiva. Great keepaway move used in conjunction with Shiva and Valefor. Isn't godly, but damn useful.

Ground HP-
Ifrit: Your anti-air. And boy is it insane. For the record, it hits BRV and HP simultaneously. In fact, if you break them with this move, you'll hit with HP FIRST, so that you get the BRV pool after the HP. This makes it insane as you don't have to worry about being broken after HP.
Valefor: Lazurs pew pew. But it's great. Punished dodges in your face, or moves from afar. Your HP after an assist move that knocks them particularly far (like Sonic Buster of Tidus). Yeah, the hitbox is screwy in an awesome way, and it bends. Lots of win, just becareful how you use it.

Air HP-
Shiva: Diamond Dust is broken if used correctly. So I won't call it broken. I'll just call it insanely good. It's startup is as fast as free energy and does BRV damage. Probably your most landed HP. It's fast but the range is poor. Serves great mindgame purposes after wallrush.
Ixion: Not as godly as DiamondDust but still very good. Has slight suction which makes it insanely hard to get out of in a corner. It's also your HP of choice for punishing slower moves as DD has too short of a range. Or you could always...
Bahamut: It's like 0-Form, but much better. Much less start-up than CoD's version and the wallrush distance is still great. However, it doesn't turn and you have to move with bahamut. This move is really glitchy though, as the HP part misses quick a few times and often Bahamut gets stuck and Yuna will move without Bahamut. Another thing is that Yuna is on TOP of Bahamut, so a whiff is a free "PUNISH ME" sign. Still, the Pros outweigh the con.

Okay guys, really. Yuna has NO useless moves and for the most part, they're all godly. She's got the fast moves, she's got the unblockables and the insane HPs. She's got all the tools for top tier and all we need is a tournament to prove it. Not to mention I can't find any bad matchups for her. She even owns Zidane since she's midrange and Zidane is close range. Outta try Kuja, but Kuja will have a tough time killing her where her HPs are much better than Kuja. The hardest matchup for her so far I've fought tends to be Gilgy, but it's an even 5/5 at worst.

interesting, but i do see firion and exdeath as a threat to yuna, which shut down her long range game, which is for building meter to help her get in easier with less consequences. one thing which i also have noticed is that a majority of her moves are counted as magical/projectile, which automatically gives them low priority. startups great, but priority is what will make her moves suffer. ive got to change that in my guide soon.

also, bahamut does turn, only during the startup to get a good aim on the opponent.

but i do agree with your attack analysis, if theres anything missing from my guide that youve written here, do you mind if i import it into the guide?

[RDFMASTER]

In case no one is/played a really good Yuna, she's definitely going to be top tier material.

Ground BRVS-

Ifrit: Fast, Wallrushes a good distance and more importantly, it's used after an Ixion stagger for a free riposte hit.
Ixion: Most damaging ground attack, insane range, not a bad recovery. Staggers on block and can DC into Ifrit. Absolutely her best ground BRV.
Valefor: Not too good but has occasional punish side dodges. It's mostly for building meter.

Air BRV-

Shiva: Most broken vertical range ever. Goes almost as far as Jecht's charged kicks without the charging business. Wallrushes like a champ and has the start-up and cooldown of a broken move. Is broken. For sure. Can punish all sorts of crap after assist change too.
Valefor: Great range for punish and it's your melee move of the air. It also hurts and starts chase. Start-up is fairly quick and doesn't have a long cooldown. What more can you ask for?
Bahamut: Alternate for assist building with Shiva. Great keepaway move used in conjunction with Shiva and Valefor. Isn't godly, but damn useful.

Ground HP-
Ifrit: Your anti-air. And boy is it insane. For the record, it hits BRV and HP simultaneously. In fact, if you break them with this move, you'll hit with HP FIRST, so that you get the BRV pool after the HP. This makes it insane as you don't have to worry about being broken after HP.
Valefor: Lazurs pew pew. But it's great. Punished dodges in your face, or moves from afar. Your HP after an assist move that knocks them particularly far (like Sonic Buster of Tidus). Yeah, the hitbox is screwy in an awesome way, and it bends. Lots of win, just becareful how you use it.

Air HP-
Shiva: Diamond Dust is broken if used correctly. So I won't call it broken. I'll just call it insanely good. It's startup is as fast as free energy and does BRV damage. Probably your most landed HP. It's fast but the range is poor. Serves great mindgame purposes after wallrush.
Ixion: Not as godly as DiamondDust but still very good. Has slight suction which makes it insanely hard to get out of in a corner. It's also your HP of choice for punishing slower moves as DD has too short of a range. Or you could always...
Bahamut: It's like 0-Form, but much better. Much less start-up than CoD's version and the wallrush distance is still great. However, it doesn't turn and you have to move with bahamut. This move is really glitchy though, as the HP part misses quick a few times and often Bahamut gets stuck and Yuna will move without Bahamut. Another thing is that Yuna is on TOP of Bahamut, so a whiff is a free "PUNISH ME" sign. Still, the Pros outweigh the con.

Okay guys, really. Yuna has NO useless moves and for the most part, they're all godly. She's got the fast moves, she's got the unblockables and the insane HPs. She's got all the tools for top tier and all we need is a tournament to prove it. Not to mention I can't find any bad matchups for her. She even owns Zidane since she's midrange and Zidane is close range. Outta try Kuja, but Kuja will have a tough time killing her where her HPs are much better than Kuja. The hardest matchup for her so far I've fought tends to be Gilgy, but it's an even 5/5 at worst.

Ultimecia and Kefka is her worst match up.

[RionNagase]

In case no one is/played a really good Yuna, she's definitely going to be top tier material.

Ground BRVS-

Ifrit: Fast, Wallrushes a good distance and more importantly, it's used after an Ixion stagger for a free riposte hit.
Ixion: Most damaging ground attack, insane range, not a bad recovery. Staggers on block and can DC into Ifrit. Absolutely her best ground BRV.
Valefor: Not too good but has occasional punish side dodges. It's mostly for building meter.

Air BRV-

Shiva: Most broken vertical range ever. Goes almost as far as Jecht's charged kicks without the charging business. Wallrushes like a champ and has the start-up and cooldown of a broken move. Is broken. For sure. Can punish all sorts of crap after assist change too.
Valefor: Great range for punish and it's your melee move of the air. It also hurts and starts chase. Start-up is fairly quick and doesn't have a long cooldown. What more can you ask for?
Bahamut: Alternate for assist building with Shiva. Great keepaway move used in conjunction with Shiva and Valefor. Isn't godly, but damn useful.

Ground HP-
Ifrit: Your anti-air. And boy is it insane. For the record, it hits BRV and HP simultaneously. In fact, if you break them with this move, you'll hit with HP FIRST, so that you get the BRV pool after the HP. This makes it insane as you don't have to worry about being broken after HP.
Valefor: Lazurs pew pew. But it's great. Punished dodges in your face, or moves from afar. Your HP after an assist move that knocks them particularly far (like Sonic Buster of Tidus). Yeah, the hitbox is screwy in an awesome way, and it bends. Lots of win, just becareful how you use it.

Air HP-
Shiva: Diamond Dust is broken if used correctly. So I won't call it broken. I'll just call it insanely good. It's startup is as fast as free energy and does BRV damage. Probably your most landed HP. It's fast but the range is poor. Serves great mindgame purposes after wallrush.
Ixion: Not as godly as DiamondDust but still very good. Has slight suction which makes it insanely hard to get out of in a corner. It's also your HP of choice for punishing slower moves as DD has too short of a range. Or you could always...
Bahamut: It's like 0-Form, but much better. Much less start-up than CoD's version and the wallrush distance is still great. However, it doesn't turn and you have to move with bahamut. This move is really glitchy though, as the HP part misses quick a few times and often Bahamut gets stuck and Yuna will move without Bahamut. Another thing is that Yuna is on TOP of Bahamut, so a whiff is a free "PUNISH ME" sign. Still, the Pros outweigh the con.

Okay guys, really. Yuna has NO useless moves and for the most part, they're all godly. She's got the fast moves, she's got the unblockables and the insane HPs. She's got all the tools for top tier and all we need is a tournament to prove it. Not to mention I can't find any bad matchups for her. She even owns Zidane since she's midrange and Zidane is close range. Outta try Kuja, but Kuja will have a tough time killing her where her HPs are much better than Kuja. The hardest matchup for her so far I've fought tends to be Gilgy, but it's an even 5/5 at worst.

Calling Yuna's attacks godly is only your opinion. I've used her to the point of exhausting all resources and knowledge I have of Dissidia and Dissidia Duodecim. You're just basing your own logic. Namely, have you even fought good players? If you only base your logic against fighting CPUs then your logic is invalid. I used Yuna in a party battle with only her, all my opponents are Lv 105, behavior vicious. They fight well but they are still CPUs and like all CPUs they have flaws, they get predictable, they use unneeded moves that can be dodged, blocked, or even walked away from. Any Yuna player can overcome the odds, however an even better player can beat her with any character. Now if we go to the subject, of her weaknesses, sure Yuna has quite a bit of flaws. Certain moves can be blocked and more so she leaves herself wide open at times with certain moves like Mega Flare. But that doesn't stop me from using it. Statistics show that if an equally good player who uses Ultimecia, Kefka, Firion, Ex-Death, Golbez, Emperor Mateus, Terra, Tidus, Laguna, and Jecht the majority will win and Yuna will lose. Each of those characters have something Yuna does not have. I'm pretty sure more characters outweigh Yuna, but it all depends on how well you use her. To me all that's left is to improve my game with her and hope for the best that I'll win, oh and learn how to abuse Mega Flare, due to Yuna being able to "move" during certain moments of the attack. Yuna has mindgame potential though like shakotan_strafer says. Some of her moves can be used in conjunction with others to make mindgames, Energy Ray is one of those many and I do enjoy using it. So, I hope that clarifies some things, please have something to back up your opinion to prove a statement. And I hope I didn't sound mean or anything, because I didn't mean to. I just want to prove a point.

[shakotan_strafer]

i totally agree man. i wouldnt stretch as far to call all of her moves godlike, heavenly strike is probably the closest. 13 frame startup, no stagger on block and can lead to combos/mindgames. other than that, thats all i see.

[SilvaKairi]

Ultimecia and Kefka is her worst match up.

Really RDF o.o Hmmmm gunna do some a testing :3

[lulumage]

@shakotan_strafer the first alt is from final fantasy x-2 international , only released in japan i think

if you don't remember what Im talking about its this alt...
http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy/images/0/03/FFX2psychic.jpg

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you know what i also don't mind this one ether
http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy/images/1/10/Ffx2-blackmage.jpg

or how about what if they give us the option for ANY dressphere for yuna and include a moveset for yuna to have yojimbo , anima and magus sisters? THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!!!!

if you guys want me to post all dresspheres of yuna ill do it, its up to you? or the link to all of them is http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Final_Fantasy_X-2_Jobs

[shakotan_strafer]

no, dont post them we can go to the link lol
i havent gotten around to playing ffx2 international yet, ive got it sitting in my cupboard hahas.

id rather if they just made more moves for yuna, like yojimbo, anima and magus sisters. i was sort of expecting them in this game :(

[RionNagase]

Well in my case I could have just wish they at least had Anima. Anima's Pain attack would be a great move.....but now that I think of it, it would be cheap because of the instant explosion. Plus the range would have to be considered. But Pain looks like it can get you anywhere. So I guess that's why they didn't put her on. That and UMD space.

[shakotan_strafer]

screw umd's, sell iso's, I WANT EXTRA AEONS.
/rant
anyone tried out empy as assist for yuna?
you can complete one slash of ifirt, activate empy, oppoenet stuns, then use arospark, to full, when when they explode out of the assist, hellfire anti air.
so cool.
/excitement

[RionNagase]

Emperor Mateus as an Assist for Yuna? Blasphemy! /laughs
But that sounds interesting, but I don't know.....at least it beats using Tidus. He doesn't really help much.
I'll try using all characters for an assist for Yuna and give you all feedback.

[SawronZXZ]

screw umd's, sell iso's, I WANT EXTRA AEONS.
/rant
anyone tried out empy as assist for yuna?
you can complete one slash of ifirt, activate empy, oppoenet stuns, then use arospark, to full, when when they explode out of the assist, hellfire anti air.
so cool.
/excitement

Regardless of the possible combos with Mateus, using him as an assist is mostly always extremely situational.

[shakotan_strafer]

Regardless of the possible combos with Mateus, using him as an assist is mostly always extremely situational.

of course of course, there are obviously better assists, just stating something cool i found out last night.

[RionNagase]

Lightning is a useful Assist for Yuna.

Frigid Cannon

Heavenly Strike>(Wallrush)>(Assist: Aerora)>Thor's Hammer

One of my assist moves. I'm trying to see if I can extend it further. Who knows.

[lulumage]

like i said they should have a dlc for yuna that involves an extra move like anima's pain as BRV, and oblivation as HP, yojimbo's Wakizashi as BRV and Zanmato as HP, and also the magus sisters, a chain brv like first you see sandy do razzia then cindy do camisade then mindy do passado , and also delta attack as their HP. that would be awesome!!! but i don't mind to getting a dlc costume for her, like her white mage alt, her trainer alt and or her floral fallel alt AND toughs moves i mention!!!! >.<

AHAHAHAHHA i guess i ask for to much lol

but SE has to make it up for not even putting lulu in lol
i love lulu lol

[shakotan_strafer]

Lightning is a useful Assist for Yuna.

Frigid Cannon

Heavenly Strike>(Wallrush)>(Assist: Aerora)>Thor's Hammer

One of my assist moves. I'm trying to see if I can extend it further. Who knows.

laguna works there in place of lightning, also cloud and cecil if you time the assist just before it hits the ground.
but imho, assist combos are gonna be pretty generic.

[RionNagase]

laguna works there in place of lightning, also cloud and cecil if you time the assist just before it hits the ground.
but imho, assist combos are gonna be pretty generic.

You got a point. Though it seems Jecht is the best Assist for her......not yet sure though. We should just keep trying to make assist combos, that way you can put it in your guide. I guess only the best assists should go in the guide?

[shakotan_strafer]

You got a point. Though it seems Jecht is the best Assist for her......not yet sure though. We should just keep trying to make assist combos, that way you can put it in your guide. I guess only the best assists should go in the guide?

yeh, lets try and keep it to maybe top five or ten.

[Hollowed]

I found that Aerospark can do 8 hits. Press O when the light from Ixion's horn fades out into a sideways line.

[Daiforme]

ive found tifa to be a good assist after one slash of aerospark

[shakotan_strafer]

I found that Aerospark can do 8 hits. Press O when the light from Ixion's horn fades out into a sideways line.

8!! :O
i usually time it for 6, never tried for 8. try tonight hahas.


ive found tifa to be a good assist after one slash of aerospark

yeah, ive found this too, but its only one hit. maybe we can get something more out of it.

[RionNagase]

So far my best Yuna assists are Jecht, Lightning, Cecil, Kain, and Gilgamesh. And yes I said Gilgamesh, his random factor tends to help me out especially when he wields the Battle Axes, Excalibur, or the Masamune. They help in my favor, but I only use him as a last resort.....Chicken Knife still makes me laugh when he assisted me. Out of my five assists, Jecht and Kain proved most powerful as assists, Jecht Stream allows me to inflict more BRV damage on the Ground or just perform HP Attacks like Energy Ray and Hellfire. Jecht Rush gives me the option to use Thor's Hammer, Diamond Dust, and Mega Flare on the Wallrushed opponent. Even Impulse, Heavenly Strike, and Sonic Wings can be used against the Wallrushed opponent. Jecht comes with Jecht Blade (Ground HP) and Triumphant Grasp (Aerial HP) both can Wallrush, it all depends on how you use him. Kain is nearly the same with but, Kain comes with a nice bonus. His Piercing Lance attack allows you to enter Chase, not to mention Crash Dive is a nice addition for the assist. I don't recommend using Kain's Ground HP Attack Jump doesn't help much. But his Dragon's Fang is a useful Wallrush HP Attack. What Lightning offers Yuna is Aerora on ground and Smite on air (BRV Attacks) as for HP Attacks, Lightning uses Lightning Strike on Ground and Thunder Fall on air. Aerora is useful for launching opponents into the air, while Smite is as useful as Heavenly Strike it smacks the opponent straight into the ground. Lightning Strike doesn't do much expect inflict a bit of BRV damage before inflicting HP damage, while Thunder Fall is the better of the two, inflicting BRV damage then HP damage as well as Wallrushing the enemy. Cecil is much like a mix of Kain and Jecht in terms of Wallrush BRV Attacks, his HP Attacks however leave much to be expected. Dark Flame and Saint's Fall don't seem to be that use for Assist. As for Gilgamesh, I'll have you guys figure that out for yourselves. I can't really explain much of him due to the randomness he gives out.

[shakotan_strafer]

So far my best Yuna assists are Jecht, Lightning, Cecil, Kain, and Gilgamesh. And yes I said Gilgamesh, his random factor tends to help me out especially when he wields the Battle Axes, Excalibur, or the Masamune. They help in my favor, but I only use him as a last resort.....Chicken Knife still makes me laugh when he assisted me. Out of my five assists, Jecht and Kain proved most powerful as assists, Jecht Stream allows me to inflict more BRV damage on the Ground or just perform HP Attacks like Energy Ray and Hellfire. Jecht Rush gives me the option to use Thor's Hammer, Diamond Dust, and Mega Flare on the Wallrushed opponent. Even Impulse, Heavenly Strike, and Sonic Wings can be used against the Wallrushed opponent. Jecht comes with Jecht Blade (Ground HP) and Triumphant Grasp (Aerial HP) both can Wallrush, it all depends on how you use him. Kain is nearly the same with but, Kain comes with a nice bonus. His Piercing Lance attack allows you to enter Chase, not to mention Crash Dive is a nice addition for the assist. I don't recommend using Kain's Ground HP Attack Jump doesn't help much. But his Dragon's Fang is a useful Wallrush HP Attack. What Lightning offers Yuna is Aerora on ground and Smite on air (BRV Attacks) as for HP Attacks, Lightning uses Lightning Strike on Ground and Thunder Fall on air. Aerora is useful for launching opponents into the air, while Smite is as useful as Heavenly Strike it smacks the opponent straight into the ground. Lightning Strike doesn't do much expect inflict a bit of BRV damage before inflicting HP damage, while Thunder Fall is the better of the two, inflicting BRV damage then HP damage as well as Wallrushing the enemy. Cecil is much like a mix of Kain and Jecht in terms of Wallrush BRV Attacks, his HP Attacks however leave much to be expected. Dark Flame and Saint's Fall don't seem to be that use for Assist. As for Gilgamesh, I'll have you guys figure that out for yourselves. I can't really explain much of him due to the randomness he gives out.

man, my assist analysis are so shallow, hahas. i only talk about their combo-ability and such. i like your findings though, mind if i put it into a format i have for the guide?

[RionNagase]

man, my assist analysis are so shallow, hahas. i only talk about their combo-ability and such. i like your findings though, mind if i put it into a format i have for the guide?

Sure, you can use my findings. I think I'm starting to like my odds with Gilgamesh. He brings out the weapons I need in desperate times. You got to love it when he brings out Excalibur the BRV damage done is ridiculously high, three hundreds to the five hundreds at best. Enough to break my opponent in time for my HP Attacks. I'm starting to also think that the odds of him pulling out a good weapon is based on your luck but I'll have to experiment with that later.

[ujhbn]

@Hollowed are you sure Aerospark can do up to 8 hits followup? cuz it only says 2>4>6 hits in the game description.

@RionNagase Nah, the LUK stat won't affect Gilgamesh's weapon drawing. One of the staff, forgot who XD, has said that in one of the interviews.

[RionNagase]

@ujhbn: Really?! Aww, shizzy. I guess I'm just semi-lucky. I got Excalibur twice in a row so I guess it's only luck of the draw then.

[basi567]

it says only up to 6 sparks??? i could have sworn it does 8 hits if you wait till the last moment to fire them...

[RionNagase]

it says only up to 6 sparks??? i could have sworn it does 8 hits if you wait till the last moment to fire them...

Nope, I checked it myself. I slowed down the game's speed with a Cwcheat to see if 8 hits occur, but only 6 disks appeared.

[Blood_26]

Yeah same here.
I was kinda shocked when you said aerospark can hit up to 8 times.
I've tried so many times, but the most I get is 6 times.

Anyway, regarding Yuna's excel in range.
I thought she always dominates close to mid range ?
Her far ranged attacks are horrible.
Charged up impulse and energy blast (especially EB) has poor homing.

On the other hand, I personally think Yuna's high spammability was given in order to compensate for her horrible ground movement.
Yes, her attacks are very predictable, but they boost mid to far range.
Energy Blast and Mega Flare are both reasonably good mid to far ranged HP attacks.
One thing good about Yuna is that she can pressure from mid range, just like how Terra and Ultimecia + Laguna does from far range.
But unlike them, Yuna has virtually no recovery time.

Most of her brave attacks have little to none cooldowns IMHO.
Which is why I don't mind maining her.
But you guys are right, Tifa > Yuna.
Yuna is extremely afraid of Tifa, probably even Prishe.
What I know is Tifa can pressure Yuna when she closes in without any problem due to her feint.

[shakotan_strafer]

your points contradict each other.
first you say yuna dominates in close to mid range, then say how tifa and prishe are bad matchups.

also, i cant agree with you 100% on her long range game. it isnt exaclty horrible per-say.
imho yuna is best played defensively. her projectiles are best used for spacing. not necesarily netting damage. the use of impulse and eb are viable choices when distancing yourself.

yuna can pressure? HELL YEAH SHE CAN :)

[Zodiark]

After hearing Yuna's voice more....I've come to like it :D
Her in battle voice makes sense, because she's serious :D

[lulumage]

this has nothing to do with yuna but i read somwhere that there will be playable dlc characters!!!!! aslong as lulu is one of the im fine!!!!! ill see if i can get the link

[Aurelia F]

I found that Aerospark can do 8 hits. Press O when the light from Ixion's horn fades out into a sideways line.

Really? I haven't seen that yet. I thought I've seen 8 hits before, in the Yuna vs Prishe JP reveal exhibition, but the moment you guys said that 6 was the max, I rechecked and found that it was indeed only 6 hits. It LOOKED like 8 though. :x

[Geemet]

should have made her gunslinger yuna instead of summoner yuna imo. i dont like her playstyle at all.

[Aurelia F]

should have made her gunslinger yuna instead of summoner yuna imo. i dont like her playstyle at all.
But they just added in Laguna. It would be too similar. D: Dressphere Yuna would be putting her on the same line as Cecil and Gabranth, moreso with Lightning. Summoner Yuna was her original class in FFX plus its the most unique playstyle you can get out of her.

[shakotan_strafer]

the reason they have summoner yuna, is because of the fanbase in japan.
+ points for original playstyle, and a test of the psp's hardware, seeing the model limitation during battle.

[Yuna]

Yeah, apparently that's the reason you only see half of the aeons since it would've been a bit of a strain on the CPU of the PSP's (or so FFWiki says anyway).
I've not got Duodecim yet (I live in the UK) but she's definitely a character I've set my sights on, and in all honesty I have to say I'm relieved that it's not X-2 Yuna, not that I don't like her then, I just think that the original Yuna had more potential. She does look a bit stoic and out of place in battle at points but it's not her job normally to be in the thick of it, so to speak. Yuna's not only one of my favourite FF heroines, she's also a Summoner, which is also a class that hasn't really been seen before like this. I think she definitely has potential though, without a doubt.

[shakotan_strafer]

you wont be dissapointed!

[Yuna]

That's good to hear. =P
On a random note, anyone find any decent Yuna battle videos out there yet? I've seen quite a few but I want to see more, I just want to see how she works.

[Daedry]

this has nothing to do with yuna but i read somwhere that there will be playable dlc characters!!!!! aslong as lulu is one of the im fine!!!!! ill see if i can get the link

if you can get the link i'd be really curious to see that :O
(and maybe happy if they add a character that i want... i'm looking at you Shadow :P)

[RionNagase]

Hmmm, if there is dlc characters, one of my friends will start putting their hopes up on believing Genesis, Zack, or Red XIII would be a dlc playable character. But anyways, as far as I know I just want to make Yuna more stronger. She needs more respect. Has anyone found any good combos with her? Other than me, I'd like to hear other people's opinions of Yuna's combos and want to know if they made an extended combo with her, if it is possible that is.

[shakotan_strafer]

other than assist combos, i havent found anything particularily special.

one weird thing that happened to me though...
i was playing on crystal world (ff9) and on the ground there are those floor tile-thingo's that break on impact. so what happened to me is that i used hellfire, it hit for brave, then the tile broke, and mega flare was automatically going, already halfway through the animation. just something that made me go wtf.

[SilvaKairi]

other than assist combos, i havent found anything particularily special.

one weird thing that happened to me though...
i was playing on crystal world (ff9) and on the ground there are those floor tile-thingo's that break on impact. so what happened to me is that i used hellfire, it hit for brave, then the tile broke, and mega flare was automatically going, already halfway through the animation. just something that made me go wtf.

O.o Gltich maybe?

[RionNagase]

other than assist combos, i havent found anything particularily special.

one weird thing that happened to me though...
i was playing on crystal world (ff9) and on the ground there are those floor tile-thingo's that break on impact. so what happened to me is that i used hellfire, it hit for brave, then the tile broke, and mega flare was automatically going, already halfway through the animation. just something that made me go wtf.

That....that sounds kinda odd. Did you save the replay data of that happening? It seems very interesting to see.

[shakotan_strafer]

That....that sounds kinda odd. Did you save the replay data of that happening? It seems very interesting to see.

nah man, wish i did. didnt have the save data option on at the time.

[Zodiark]

That....that sounds kinda odd. Did you save the replay data of that happening? It seems very interesting to see.

I don't think it's a glitch.
Just probably something that Square didn't think of.
It also happened in the second dissidia

[RionNagase]

Hmmm, I see....well a loss is a loss. Maybe one of us can replicate that factor to see what happened and put into video. If not, it's fine, I plan to make Yuna a strong and respected character. Knowing certain people who believe in "tiers" so much, I plan to break that needless cycle of futility. It's all about skill and determination to me. Yuna is a solid character and I won't acknowledge the existence of tiers and the like.

[shakotan_strafer]

Hmmm, I see....well a loss is a loss. Maybe one of us can replicate that factor to see what happened and put into video. If not, it's fine, I plan to make Yuna a strong and respected character. Knowing certain people who believe in "tiers" so much, I plan to break that needless cycle of futility. It's all about skill and determination to me. Yuna is a solid character and I won't acknowledge the existence of tiers and the like.

tiers are for queers. (dont take it seriously xD)
lets all make a name for yuna!

talking about cycle of futility, the spiral of death. :D

man, im so busy as of late, havent had time to write a bit more on assists for the guide.

[Keiya]

... wait Tidus is a bad assist for Yuna? Coz I've been using Tidus as support and seeing things differently.

I just got the game yesterday, and I'm power-leveling the new guys, but I've experimented a bit with Yuna, and I have to say that she's pretty much the mid-ranged goddess you guys are talking about. As for Tidus, I find that he's not as damaging as Jecht or Cecil, but his BRV moves combo nicely with Yuna's, and it's really easy to set up HP attacks (or at least the 2 I have right now). Although, I do offer the caveat that if your assist can knock the opponent to the floor for one BRV attack, and do Assist Chase on the other, then it'll just be the same as Tidus. For knockdown, Energy Ray is the best thing to use, and for Assist Chase, either Thor's Hammer or Diamond Dust work splendidly since they won't even have the ability to dodge.

Thing about Jecht and Cecil for Yuna is that, while their BRV's are really strong, the moves' utility in landing HP Attacks aren't as effective as Tidus or Squall. Neither Jecht nor Cecil have an Assist Chase BRV, though their air BRV's make it easy to land Energy Rain. Jecht's ground BRV actually throws the opponent too far to land any HP attack except at the beginning of the combo, and Cecil's ground BRV isn't useful outside of a cramped space (good luck if you're fighting at Order's Sanctuary).

[Jirachi]

Tidus isn't really bad persay. The thing is, Yuna is not one of the characters who value Assist Chases over Wall Rush Assists. Though Tidus has both his assist chase is one he'll use a lot more often. Wall Rush assists may not be super versatile like Chase but they do so much for Yuna. Also, Tidus Hop Step in particular does low damage on his own compared to some assists, which is a huge reason alone to use an assist that is more powerful on both ground and air. For characters like Firion and those who value swift aerial assist chases, Tidus is good.

Assist chases like Tidus and Sephiroth set up for...Sonic Wings and Diamond Dust basically. While powerful moves in their own right, there are better options.

I'll use Jecht BRVs as an example. BOTH his ground and air moves are pretty damn fast, almost as fast as the legendary Hop Step. Tidus's speed does not make a big difference at all. His moves by themselves are really powerful. He also holds the enemy for a large amount of time, allowing you to get into position even if you're pretty far from the opponent. Jecht Stream sets up very, very nicely for Megaflare and Aerospark if there is a ground below you, as does all Ground Wall Rushes. The most damaging HP and BRV moves Yuna has respectively. Megaflare also has the distinction of being the only Wall Rushing HP Yuna has so using it as opposed to say, Diamond Dust, helps you win faster. Even if there IS a warp trap below you when you use Jecht,.it still is very possible to catch opponents that Jecht drops (or while he's hitting them) with Megaflare or Sonic Wings provided you get the positioning and timing correct. Same with a Jecht hitting opponents UPWARD. Jecht's Ground BRV, while harder to combo off of bar a few specific stages, is also stronger and faster than Tidus's Sonic Buster. Did you, poster, even try using Megaflare with Jecht and Cecil and Gilgamesh and stuff before?

Long story short, Jecht IMO just has far far more damage potential and lead easily to Yuna's best moves at the cost of a bit of versatility. He's also essentially faster than Tidus, since Tidus's ground move is slow for punishing. I used to use Tidus and he was good, but I think Jecht is still the perfect assist for Yuna due to his damage.

In the end I don't see what Tidus has over Jecht, really. Tidus may be a tad (like, just a tiny weeny bit) more reliable but it's not worth sacrificing all of Jecht's advantages.

If anyone has an assist they think is better, please say so and give reasons why.

[shakotan_strafer]

Tidus isn't really bad persay. The thing is, Yuna is not one of the characters who value Assist Chases over Wall Rush Assists.


this. people are just using tidus for assist because well, they are fulfilling their dream team.
some other good assists include as they all wallrush.
jecht
cecil
cloud
lightning
laguna (after a succesful heavenly strike)

[Keiya]

this. people are just using tidus for assist because well, they are fulfilling their dream team.

Guilty. XD


I have not gotten Megaflare and Aerospark, so I'm going to try those out with Jecht when I get to that level. I also have to admit that punishing opponents wasn't on my mind while writing that post; I was thinking more about landing Meteor Strike/Heavenly Strike, calling out the assist, and then landing an HP.

Jirachi, I wasn't necessarily saying that Tidus is better than Jecht or vice versa; I was simply saying that he's a decent Assist and is pretty versatile (especially in early levels when people don't have insane HP and your moves are pretty limited). Don't get so worked up; this isn't a debate.

[Jirachi]

Ehehehe, please excuse me.

When I see someone make a comment I disagree with I often feel the need to correct them...don't take offense to it.

[Yuna]

So I finally have this and I've only just started picking Yuna up, done the story, unlocked Feral/Desperado, can't really be bothered with 013 just yet so I've focused on ability mastering.

Now, for a few speculations of my own.

I don't find Thor's Hammer that effective, it leaves her open for too long, but I do think that Diamond Dust is a brilliant HP attack, especially to punish attacks of theirs which you've blocked/haven't hit. Mega Flare is a must, great for keeping distance (however, I do find that quite a lot they jump above and over, any help with this?). Sonic Wings is a good 'suprise attack' at medium distance, and if they're close Heavenly Strike is exceptionally fast.

As for ability speak, I've been toying with stuff. So far I think (don't know who would agree) that she works best at medium to long range and in the air. I think that her air game is far better. Snooze and Lose is an ability I'm testing now, I played via ad hoc with a friend and they ran away a lot, trying to lure me closer and out of her primary range, Snooze and Lose (possibly combined with Concentration at a push) can help avoid this I think. Also, Heavenly Strike is great for assist boosting, even if you're just hitting air.

Well, there's a few random thoughts/musings from me, what does everybody else think?

[Zero_Ruzai]

I always just couple her HP attacks with Combos. I always use Jecht.

Ok, what you said about Thor's Hammer, I find it more useful than Diamond Dust. It has more vertical tracking and an absorb property. This comes in handy in tons of situations.

Megaflare isn't one of those attacks you can just bust out and hope not to get punish. It hits a good deal of the time, but it's very punishable. I also couple this with Jecht; if you use Shiva's aerial BRV attack, you can wall rush them down, call upon Jecht, and whenever he just throws the opponent into the air use Megaflare. This is brave rape+HP damage. Also, Energy Beam and Hellfire work amazingly well with Jecht's ground assist, which is easy to do since Shiva wallrushes downwards. Shazam.
Thor's Hammer is better for moves you see coming or that missed and the opponent just can't get away.
I have no idea was Diamond Dust is good for, I haven't found one good situation it's better than Thor's Hammer in.

[Yuna]

True, the absorb does help. I'm still playing around with setups right now, and I've also been using Jecht as an assist for her, he works so well. On another note, which do you think Yuna is better off aiming for, Assist or Ex? The ex properties are kind of helpful with the extra aeons, but assist enable combos so I'm not really sure which I should go for, but I'm leaning towards assist as it can help her substantially. (I haven't really got used to the assist system yet, but I've seen it used pretty well.)

[Zero_Ruzai]

Assist system outperforms EX mode with pretty much every character, save Gabranth.
There's not much to get used to with the assist system other than:
A) Use assist in the middle of a long combo, i.e. they'll have enough time to reach them before you send them flying.
B) Wall rushes are when to use assists primarily. If they wallrush as well, you can throw in another attack, preferably HP.
C) Avoid Assist lock, if you're opponent's not doing anything, don't use an assist because 99/100 times, they'll block it and you'll be locked.
D) Always try to have one bar. This can be used to escape HP attacks or combo whenever you get that vital wallrush in.

[shakotan_strafer]

I have no idea was Diamond Dust is good for, I haven't found one good situation it's better than Thor's Hammer in.
i agree on what youve said about yunas other hp attacks, i do the same thing LOL

but diamond dust does have its uses, its perfect those "oh shit" moments, when your opponent has broken through your zoning game, dashed towards you and is right in your face. extremely fast startup. im pretty sure if thors hammer was used in this situation, you would get hit right out of it.

imho, its just this one situation which makes this move very useful. yuna needs all the versatility she can get, just having these close range moves boosts her game a lot when her weakness is exploited via certain characters like tifa and prishe.


The ex properties are kind of helpful with the extra aeons, but assist enable combos so I'm not really sure which I should go for, but I'm leaning towards assist as it can help her substantially.
yuna is much better aiming for assist. but really, as a rule of thumb, everyone benefits from the effects of ex mode so you shouldnt take it out of the picture. assists allow yuna to combo and punish, which she cant do very well in without them. your right on the ball though, choosing chuck norris for assist. very very useful, for any character really.

[Yuna]

So, exp to assist is the best choice to take, you'd think?
Attack wise, I know this will probably sound odd, but when I've done mastering her abilities, I'll want to put all her attacks available on. Why? The CP costs aren't a lot and it provides a lot more variety. I'll be building her around this for sure.

[Zero_Ruzai]

Also bear in mind EX mode is much harder to obtain than more assist.
Yeah, with all her attacks mastered, HP included, it's around 150, which is really good. For Feral Chaos, that's like 3 attacks lol. So not bad for 11.

I do that as well. I keep omni dash+ on and jump boost ++ so that I can stay in the air; I find valefor and shiva to be the main damage dealers with bahamut as pressure (valefor=fast+decent damage+EX, Shiva=assist combo, Bahamut=long range, Ruzai= win)

[Yuna]

I've started trying out the Impulse > Heavenly Strike link combo mentioned in her FAQ thread, it works pretty well but it only appears to work after she's fully charged it, which is a bit of a shame.

I've noticed that Aerospark appears to have a bit of a vertical swing to it as well, perhaps that'd be helpful when they're nearly above you? As for the Diamond Dust/Thor's Hammer views, I think both have their useful points but the former is undeniably faster, opponents won't see it as well in tense situations, on the other hand, if they expect it then you could jump around and deliver a Thor's Hammer to their back.

[CosmicJR13]

I think I'll stick with EXP to EX force since it's harder/longer to get, on the other hand, its quite easy to fill up the assist bar by using Impulse, Heavenly strike or that proyectile attack Valeforth(don't know name) uses on the ground



Diamond dust is one of my fav HP attacks, iit's like the secret weapon u get to use once the opponent is in your face

Thor's hammer is a good dodge punisher, and I like to use it when I'm above the opponent in close areas, they can't punsh me because the have to try and escape, which is hard because it has absorb properties

Megaflare is good for deflecting proyectiles like Emperor's blue flare, etc, I use it a lot after assist combos since it has great brv damage compared to her other HP attacks

Hellfire is a good anti air and a good close range attack, plus it's quite fast


I have a question:
So, should I use Cecil or Jecht as an assist for Yuna??

[shakotan_strafer]

@yuna
all part of the mindgames my comrade :)

@cosmical golbez
imho, jecht is much better than cecil, all because of his actual brave damage, and how easy it is to combo of him. cecil is easy to combo of his air brv, not so much his ground. jecht jails them to allow you enough time to dash in and use a hp attack.

[CosmicJR13]

OK then, Thanks ^.^

and how about ground dash, I don't equip it, I'm just find with omni+, But I'm a Yuna noob so IDK

and Sneak attack or counter attack?? I say counterattack

[shakotan_strafer]

OK then, Thanks ^.^

and how about ground dash, I don't equip it, I'm just find with omni+, But I'm a Yuna noob so IDK

and Sneak attack or counter attack?? I say counterattack

its all personal preference with these abilities, hahas. but personally, i dont have ground dashes equipped, and ive got couterattack all the time. personal preference.

[RionNagase]

Hmmm, as far as I know, I've toppled every AI enemy 10 times and one of my friends with Yuna. So far, I noticed some interesting tips with Yuna as far as my knowledge of Yuna in Dissidia Duodecim goes, yes playing defensively works wonders. I have a bit of tips for those who intend to use Yuna as a main. While she doesn't play as defensively as Ex-Death, she has a few tricks up her sleeve to make her more tricky like certain other characters. While observing the enemy, I noticed that they'll either dodge an attack or block it correct? Depending on the situation, Yuna can adjust to the opponent's actions. Learning when to use an attack to suit the situation is key to victory. Learn the range of a move first, I say use shakotan_strafer's guide for this because it's important. Hellfire's position and range may be short but it proves to be a useful anti-air attack for those who dodged wrongly. Learn its range from the ground up, you'll be using this a lot against Tidus, Kain, and Zidane players. More for aerial fighters than Tidus, because Tidus doesn't always remain in the air. Also I found that, a good idea to do is learning the technique called "Poking", I'm not sure if that's what it's called but I'm going with it. Poking is simply spamming long ranged attacks to position the enemy into your field of battle a.k.a. your attack range. In Yuna's case the best move for poking an opponent is Energy Blast, I find that even those this move is useless in terms of attack strength in makes up for with annoyance (to the enemy) and positioning your opponent at the right spot for either Meteor Strike, Aerospark, Energy Ray, an assist, Heavenly Strike, or Sonic Wings. Poking an opponent also serves a purpose for building up your assist gauge as well. However, learn to use restrain as well as recycling the move but mixing it up. It will cause the opponent to be confused, remember mindgames are your friends. Hahaha, also a bit of advice, when in a bind learn to use EX Revenge as your weapon. I run an EX Revenge/EX Mode Yuna, learn how to make EX Revenge combos with her. Not only is it fun, but it's a useful thing to keep in mind for when you are stuck in an HP Attack, every move you make can tip the scale of battle. Either you'll win or lose, in this case are you willing to take that hit or will keep the battle in your favor. As a gift, this is one of my EX Revenge Combos, it's only used in the air, you may choose to use it or not. It might be a little hard also if the range doesn't fit you can dodge for extra room, you'll also need certain abilities for it to work properly.

Sonic Wings -> Link Glitch Blizzard Impact (Impulse and Heavenly Strike, make sure you have enough range) -> reach the opponent with a dash or any means you have of attack, or if you are lucky this is where an assist would come in handy like Jecht or Cecil as the enemy is still in the air -> finish it with any HP attack you see fit to use

An assist is better than the dashing part, but if you can't use an assist then the dashing method is the best choice. But then you'd have to either use Thor's Hammer or Diamond Dust, the best choice would be Diamond Dust though. I guess that's all I can give out to you all. I'll see what other ways, to improve Yuna's game.

[shakotan_strafer]

snip

yes, this man speaks the truth! (i think zoning is the appropriate term, rather than poking)
very in depth analysis on subjects i only touch on briefly in my guide.
im trying to picture how sonic wing to blizzard impact works, care to explain further?

but yeah, learning mindgames is essential for all yuna users out there. i currently play against 3 people (3 characters each) on a regular basis, and therye no pushovers! mindgames is what pulls me through to pull a win out of my ass. these yuna shenanigans (as we shall now call it) will ensue a rage quit in your enemy.

[Keiya]

Are Yuna's attacks magic or physical? I didn't want to scroll through 13 pages to figure out, and I want to equip a good accessory for her.

I think, in a nutshell, Yuna's a mid-range bruiser disguising as a spellcaster. She's like Firion but with higher mobility (but with non-stagger/guard break attacks), or Kain with a weaker air game and a stronger ground game (with less vulnerability on her attacks).

The best tip for Yuna players? Know your spacing. On the ground, she works best at mid-range, around the max distance Ifrit and/or Ixion can reach the opponent. At that distance, not too many characters have a quick enough attack to hit you, and chances are, if you're using Ixion, you'll be trading or winning clashes with the opponent most of the time. In the air, Valefor's deceptive range and Shiva's extremely safe poke make your opponent second-guess about trying to get close (unless, of course, you're dealing with close-range gods like Squall, Jecht or Tifa).

Second, I'd like to say that Yuna is very good at punishing mistakes. Meteor Strike has an obscene range on the ground for a fast move, Heavenly Strike is fast and safe, and Sonic Wings and Aerospark are good at catching whiffed and/or half-hearted attemps by your opponent to get close.

On the HP side, Diamond Dust will catch even the slightest of your opponent's mistakes, Thor's Hammer is good at punishing dodges, Hellfire will make your opponent question dashing towards you, and Energy Ray is great for spellcasters trying to one-up Yuna on the ground.

[RionNagase]

yes, this man speaks the truth! (i think zoning is the appropriate term, rather than poking)
very in depth analysis on subjects i only touch on briefly in my guide.
im trying to picture how sonic wing to blizzard impact works, care to explain further?

but yeah, learning mindgames is essential for all yuna users out there. i currently play against 3 people (3 characters each) on a regular basis, and therye no pushovers! mindgames is what pulls me through to pull a win out of my ass. these yuna shenanigans (as we shall now call it) will ensue a rage quit in your enemy.

I'll show an example with a video, that would be better suited for explanations. Also I found a neat trick with Meteor Strike and Hellfire, so far it only looks like it works with EX Revenge, but Hellfire's range can extend this video will show you how.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS04jlzaNPY

[SilvaKairi]

Hey Rion, Nice finds :3

Keiya, Yuna's attack are all magical.

[RionNagase]

Hey Rion, Nice finds :3

Keiya, Yuna's attack are all magical.

Thank you, I'll try and find more interesting tricks with Yuna. She's way too fun in EX Revenge mode~ I love the fact that the aeons' attack animations end slower because her attacks can actually extend further.

[icyie04]

^ Nope, Ixion's first part, Ifrit's brave attack, and Valefor's brave attack are all counted as Physical.

[Keiya]

^ Nope, Ixion's first part, Ifrit's brave attack, and Valefor's brave attack are all counted as Physical.

Noted. In that case, Muscle Belt, then, since those are the attacks I use the most (and Diamond Dust). Yup, bruiser disguising as a magician... I love you, Yuna.

[Zero_Ruzai]

Or just go with the traditional "off (skills)" ruleset, that way everything's even ^^
Story mode with that stuff does come in handy though.
I generally just make an assist build out of special accessories only since she's a beast with assists.

[shakotan_strafer]

@rionagase
so you meant in ex revenge for sonic wings to blizzard impact, thats so cool!!!!!!

[BRKNglassIncarnate]

Just wondering. Everyone already knows about Impulse > Heavenly Strike link glitch right?

[shakotan_strafer]

yeh, for quite a while now xD

[BRKNglassIncarnate]

Lol. Just making sure XD

[RionNagase]

@ shakotan_strafer: Yup that's what I mean. Oh, have you tried the EX Revenge Link Glitch with Yuna? She has two of them~ One of them is Meteor Strike -> Hellfire, since EX Revenge lengthens the attack animation you can make Ifrit's Hellfire extend further away from you. Also since you can keep attacking with Meteor Strike you can extend the length even further, to piss people off of course. Just use Hellfire immediately after Meteor Strike during EX Revenge make sure you hit them at the wall though or the whole thing will fail. The other one requires EX Mode during EX Revenge.....and yeah, it's possible but hard. Yuna need to use Aerospark(w/Bahamut) in EX Mode then attack with Thor's Hammer immediately. Remember this is only for EX Mode.

@ KainCross: We all know, I think I'm the first to find and create it, but I'm not so sure if someone already had the idea for it. But as far as I know I told everyone here about it, so I guess I made my hand in creating it. I prefer to call that link glitch Blizzard Impact~ It's the most useful move to use after an assist.

[BRKNglassIncarnate]

Lol. Ever since I found out that those two could be link glitched, I've been abusing them like crazy XD

Btw, the EX Revenge Meteor Strike is full of lolz

[DevilTrigger]

Lol, I just started using Yuna a lot (not gonna drop Feral, but prob gonna second her and Garland) and loving her a lot. I didn't know Heavenly Strike was such a good move lol *referring to said mentioned glitch link*. She's a lot of fun, I love how even though she seems like a mage, she really is more of a melee fighter with very long "limbs"

[RionNagase]

@ KainCross: Yes abuse it well~ It's one of the best Link Glitches so far out of the original casts' Link Glitches. Also yeah, EX Revenge Meteor Strike to Hellfire is funny. XD

@ DevilTrigger: Yeah other than Feral, Yuna is awesome~ She has some dirty little tricks up her sleeve and that is what makes her dominate the field. Though the long "limbs" part gave me a weird picture of her beating an enemy up. lol

[shakotan_strafer]

long limbs...reminds me of yunalesca, curse you tentacles!

man, makes we wonder if we have only touched the tip of the iceburg for possible combos with yuna, outside and inside of ex revenge.
the only gripes i have about landing these combos is actually landing a charged impulse -_-
what do you guys do to land this combo effectively?

[DevilTrigger]

I'm sure this was probably discussed on page one, but I think if you dash in fast enough after a charged impulse at the minimum hit range, I think Sonic Wings could be possible (certainly in a place like Pandemonium but what isn't possible there lol). The conditions if possible are really really strict though, that's for sure, I need to try in a real match using Yuna

[クラウドストライフ]

Ok I think yuna is a good character overall but c'mon Square you could've did a better job on those summons.
Showing only half of them is kinda disturbing and is becoming a major eyesore O_O

[Katsu]

If they put the full summons the framerate of the game would be slow as shit, and with UMD file restrictions they had no choice

[RionNagase]

long limbs...reminds me of yunalesca, curse you tentacles!

man, makes we wonder if we have only touched the tip of the iceburg for possible combos with yuna, outside and inside of ex revenge.
the only gripes i have about landing these combos is actually landing a charged impulse -_-
what do you guys do to land this combo effectively?

Uhm, have you tried using it after an assist? The way I see it is, it only works for that purpose.

For me, it's Meteor Strike -> Wallrush -> Assist (Jecht is perfect for this) -> Back up a bit before using a Charged Impulse (whether or not you choose to use the link glitch is your choice)

Impulse always gets blocked or dodged so the only way to prevent an enemy from doing either of those is to use an assist to hold them down for Impulse to hit. Sad to say but it is true.

[shakotan_strafer]

Uhm, have you tried using it after an assist? The way I see it is, it only works for that purpose.

For me, it's Meteor Strike -> Wallrush -> Assist (Jecht is perfect for this) -> Back up a bit before using a Charged Impulse (whether or not you choose to use the link glitch is your choice)

Impulse always gets blocked or dodged so the only way to prevent an enemy from doing either of those is to use an assist to hold them down for Impulse to hit. Sad to say but it is true.

i thought as much -_-
i thought you guys were landing it some other magical way, LOL

[DevilTrigger]

A zoning tool usually isn't the greatest means to combo, so the fact you can off of it is really good....it's just, without an assist, you should never hit a fully charged Impulse ever on an opponent, the closest you'll get is likely 1/100 shots connecting lol

[shakotan_strafer]

A zoning tool usually isn't the greatest means to combo, so the fact you can off of it is really good....it's just, without an assist, you should never hit a fully charged Impulse ever on an opponent, the closest you'll get is likely 1/100 shots connecting lol

exactly where my question spawned from :)
even if you manage to dodge a blocked charged one, theres always one that will hit you, so i was confused shitless since you guys talked like it was easy to land XD

last night was mucking around with ex revenge.....i thought wol was fun in ex revenge. yuna is so beast.

[DevilTrigger]

I like EX revenge as Garland, havent played around with it yet as Yuna (I avoid it the few times I use EX for Feral, EX Mode/Burst is 80208239002303x better), you should probably make a section for it under combos as well Shako (Feral doesn't really have one that's good lol so I ain't worried bout it, tho done my write up for Cecil's assist just about....side tracked myself lol).

On a random note, again something that mighta passed through the discussion already, but my friend showed me this image, and I want it for a DLC outfit now

http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy/images/4/42/FFX-Yuna_sendingConcept.jpg

So sexy

[shakotan_strafer]

yeah man, working on ex revenge combos and assist section atm, but havent had the time to sit down for a good hour or so. stupid exams!

the staff looks so, words can not describe!

just had a few local adhoc sessions with some people who just started playing. i feel bad for abusing this stupid setup again ;(
aerospark -> dont chase -> anti air hellfire -> they dash in.
didnt miss it once, ensued rage quit in opponent. LOL

and managed to start landing blizzard impulse off of hp attack punishes with jecht. feel so proud

[RionNagase]

yeah man, working on ex revenge combos and assist section atm, but havent had the time to sit down for a good hour or so. stupid exams!

the staff looks so, words can not describe!

just had a few local adhoc sessions with some people who just started playing. i feel bad for abusing this stupid setup again ;(
aerospark -> dont chase -> anti air hellfire -> they dash in.
didnt miss it once, ensued rage quit in opponent. LOL

and managed to start landing blizzard impulse off of hp attack punishes with jecht. feel so proud

Nice~ I found the best setup with Yuna, after playing countless battle with AI and my friends, I found that the best build is an EX Mode/EX Revenge type Yuna. To explain it further, EX Revenge makes Yuna a beast, I'll make a video later on and post it. That video will explain why she's too dangerous in EX Revenge. For EX Mode, that's just self-explanatory, Yuna fights better during EX Mode as well as have changed priorities with some of her moves. Sonic Wings is an example of this, Yuna has increased range and wallrushes~ Anyways though, that was nice that you can pull off a Blizzard Impact. I normally only do it after an assist because of the risk of being blocked.

[DevilTrigger]

I just got off some ad-hoc with my competitively minded Cloud main buddy, won't talk about my Gab and Feral here (although Gabranth on Crystal Tower is so stupid lmao). Using Yuna though, the first game I got wrecked at Prima Vista, but I was making a lot of bad choices and learning her PVP play at the time (these games were all 6999 matches btw, so no magic builds or anything). Other 2 matches in our best of 3 I won pretty well, managed to get a Blizzard Impulse off normally (and later using Laguna's assist). Speaking of Laguna, even his air assist is actually pretty good with Yuna, letting him fire those charged shotgun rounds while you use Mega Flare, he couldn't get around it at all. Sonic Wings was REALLY good for me for punishing, and the zoning moves of course. Didnt find any real good chances to Aerospark, but the few I did worked well, I gotta work on my Yuna ground play more though lol. I actually saved one of the games actually, not sure how good it was but if anyone wants to see, I'll show ya (first PvP experiences period, let alone with her, so don't be to harsh).

I'm definetly glad I'm seconding her, she's a little tough to get used to first to your usual melee power house like Cloud, but once you get into the swing of things, it went well and I had a lot of fun lol

[RionNagase]

I just got off some ad-hoc with my competitively minded Cloud main buddy, won't talk about my Gab and Feral here (although Gabranth on Crystal Tower is so stupid lmao). Using Yuna though, the first game I got wrecked at Prima Vista, but I was making a lot of bad choices and learning her PVP play at the time (these games were all 6999 matches btw, so no magic builds or anything). Other 2 matches in our best of 3 I won pretty well, managed to get a Blizzard Impulse off normally (and later using Laguna's assist). Speaking of Laguna, even his air assist is actually pretty good with Yuna, letting him fire those charged shotgun rounds while you use Mega Flare, he couldn't get around it at all. Sonic Wings was REALLY good for me for punishing, and the zoning moves of course. Didnt find any real good chances to Aerospark, but the few I did worked well, I gotta work on my Yuna ground play more though lol. I actually saved one of the games actually, not sure how good it was but if anyone wants to see, I'll show ya (first PvP experiences period, let alone with her, so don't be to harsh).

I'm definetly glad I'm seconding her, she's a little tough to get used to first to your usual melee power house like Cloud, but once you get into the swing of things, it went well and I had a lot of fun lol

I'd actually like to see your battle replay. I want to compare it with my battle style, in case I'm missing something of course~ ^_^

[DevilTrigger]

Converting now, rewatching it I didn't like it compared to another match where it was Yuna vs Cloud at Orphan's Cradle, I actually did really well there. Of course, he counterpicked with Planet's Core (I hate that stage so much), so I was pretty much airborne the entire time. We also had a little lag spikes here and there, so if you see any stupid dodge spamming moments, that's kinda why lol. I'll post it up somewhere when it's done (or if someone else wants to convert the avi file so it's viewable, anything's fine with me lol. I plan to play him tmrw, so I'll save ALL the replays that time

[RionNagase]

Converting now, rewatching it I didn't like it compared to another match where it was Yuna vs Cloud at Orphan's Cradle, I actually did really well there. Of course, he counterpicked with Planet's Core (I hate that stage so much), so I was pretty much airborne the entire time. We also had a little lag spikes here and there, so if you see any stupid dodge spamming moments, that's kinda why lol. I'll post it up somewhere when it's done (or if someone else wants to convert the avi file so it's viewable, anything's fine with me lol. I plan to play him tmrw, so I'll save ALL the replays that time

Ugh, nothing can express my hate for Planet's Core. It's just that evil to me when I use any of my best characters. Dodge spamming? lol

[shakotan_strafer]

i need to get my replays up, i always forget to save them lol
im gonna go play a session with some friends next week, ill get them up then!

theres some nice gimmicks for planets core, you guys will have to wait for my replays to see what can be pulled of here with jecht.
after seeing the basic idea, you will love planets core.

[DevilTrigger]

Well, there's one moment in particular where both of us could of just guarded (or I could of Diamond Dusted, but I didnt think of it at the time lol) but instead we whiff 800 attacks trying to land a hit before I finally get a hit. I swear this stage is IMPOSSIBLE to stay grounded for, when I tried it didn't go very well as you'll also see. In game is about half way done converting, then AVI to MP4, then I'll be good to go lol. (I still REALLY wish I saved the Orphan's video, it was so much better and had a lot better use of the Laguna assist and stuff, let alone just much better play like Megaflaring through the giant arches and a bunch of Blizzard Impulses....ah well, I'm sure this vid won't be my last video xD)

[SilvaKairi]

Hey Sry guys, i havent been playing much DDFF :( should be able to play a lot more by next week , and i'll be contributing to our Yunas Discussion more ^.^

[RionNagase]

I'll put up my battle video too.....I can't guarantee it will look cool though. XD

[BRKNglassIncarnate]

...Sooo uhhh...I still haven't decided on which Assist to use for Yuna.

[RionNagase]

...Sooo uhhh...I still haven't decided on which Assist to use for Yuna.

Uhm, want advice?

If you want to go to Chase, use Sephiroth or Kain

If you want Wall Rush, use Jecht, Kain, Cecil, Lightning, or Garland

Kain is the best for having a Wall Rush (Air) and a Chase (Ground).
Jecht and Cecil is pure Wall Rush for all BRV Moves, HP Moves never used so I don't know about those.

[BRKNglassIncarnate]

Uhm, want advice?

If you want to go to Chase, use Sephiroth or Kain

If you want Wall Rush, use Jecht, Kain, Cecil, Lightning, or Garland

Kain is the best for having a Wall Rush (Air) and a Chase (Ground).
Jecht and Cecil is pure Wall Rush for all BRV Moves, HP Moves never used so I don't know about those.

Lol. I actually experimented on Kuja before I saw this XD

Heavenly Strike > Snatch Blow (Using an incomplete Sonic Wings in the middle of the move and before the Assist chase activates) > Assist Chase > Heavenly Strike/Sonic Wings/ Diamond Dust/ Thor's Hammer

I wish I could upload it but I don't have a USB connector for my PSP to my comp. Unless someone tells me that it's possible to do it wirelessly XD

[SilvaKairi]

There is a Yuna Combo im not sure about o.o, and Jirachi did this in one of themini Tournament matches.

Heavenly Strike to Sonic Wing, Yuna has to be kinda close for it to work.

Also i'll be testing Areith as an Assist for Yuna :3

[shakotan_strafer]

There is a Yuna Combo im not sure about o.o, and Jirachi did this in one of themini Tournament matches.

Heavenly Strike to Sonic Wing, Yuna has to be kinda close for it to work.

Also i'll be testing Areith as an Assist for Yuna :3

aeriths a barrel of fun to use an assist XD

[RionNagase]

Aerith can do a load of trouble to the enemy so that's funny to see the opponent squirm. Seal Evil is the nicest assist move I've seen.

[SilvaKairi]

Hehe, then I' shall watch as my Enemy Squirm to the powers of meh Aerith! xD
(And probably make a asssist vid for Yuna) (^.')b

[ColdRoxas]

It's such a pain fighting yunnie :)

[shakotan_strafer]

and yuna will gain chuck norris powers with planet protector.

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It's such a pain fighting yunnie :)
join us comrade, you wont regret it!

[BRKNglassIncarnate]

Really? I find fighting Yuna pretty easy. The only thin that pisses me off when fighting her is her range...OHMAIGAWD DAT RANGE!!!

[ColdRoxas]

haha range? You mean her bahumat and Valefor brave attacks? Kinda
Thing I have trouble with is Valefor's spinning brave attack in the air, GOD i hate that

[BRKNglassIncarnate]

Lol. It's not only that. Heavenly Strike, Diamond Dust, and Thor's Hammer have incredible vertical range.

So it's like you think she won't get you but guess what? You get a unicorn up your ass DX

[shakotan_strafer]

bahamut and valefor are the least of your worries when fighting against yuna.
ixion on the ground and shiva in the air, just because of how safe they are.

[DevilTrigger]

I don't like Aerith that much for her abilities, Seal Evil can be dodged somewhat easy (though it's a good combo extender....I think), Planet Protector is probably her best asset for Yuna, as for Holy I can't see it being to useful unless you're fighting someone with no poke period or anything, making them have no safe way to stop it without being zoned out by Yuna

Also, first PvP Duodecim video (I also saved a Feral one, but honestly it made us both look bad, even though I won VERY easily lol)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXGxgZoXivM&feature=channel_video_title

[SilvaKairi]

bahamut and valefor are the least of your worries when fighting against yuna.
ixion on the ground and shiva in the air, just because of how safe they are.

In a Way, What Shakotan said :D

[ColdRoxas]

bahamut and valefor are the least of your worries when fighting against yuna.
ixion on the ground and shiva in the air, just because of how safe they are.

Ixion is easy enough, but Shiva is a pain too

Sonic wings i dunno... It's probably just me but I get a mental block whenever that huge monstrosity of a hitbox suddenly appears out of no where -_-

[BRKNglassIncarnate]

I think Yuna can easily defend Aerith's Holy. Besides, only guard crush Bravery and HP attacksHell's Gate can disrupt Aerith's Holy.

Lol. I probably might stick to my Kuja Assist for now.

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Sonic wings i dunno... It's probably just me but I get a mental block whenever that huge monstrosity of a hitbox suddenly appears out of no where -_-

^ This /10chars

[DevilTrigger]

It's probably cuz I main Feral, who just has to sneeze in someone's direction to break there guard lol

[BRKNglassIncarnate]

Holy shit. Kuja Assist for the fuckin win.

I just tried Heavenly Strike > Snatch shot > Mega Flare while Snatch Shot is being commenced > Assist Change > Heavenly Strike/Sonic Wings/Diamond Dust.

Although I was able to do this once so I can't really have enough info (unless someone discovered this before me). There's some strict timing to it.

Apparently Hellfire is a good replacement for Mega Flare but isn't as badass.

[shakotan_strafer]

fucking, for some reason on my laptop, all dissidia vids lag. ffs, pissing me of. its only the god damn dissidia vids. everything else works fine -_-

seems like our group of yuna mainers is getting pretty solid with our use of assist, this is good to know!

[BRKNglassIncarnate]

ARGH! I wish I could upload the vid of Yuna using that Kuja Assist combo I mentioned earlier (unless someone else already did it)

Can someone do this for me?

[DevilTrigger]

I have another better video of me vs a Prishe, gonna upload it....iunno, later? Shako btw, might I recommend either putting a video section in your guide, or a video thread for the Yuna forums? Rion could as well, whoever wants to be in charge, but it'd be a lot easier for people to keep track of the vids and stuff if thats done

[shakotan_strafer]

yeah, ill just collate all the videos posted here into another thread, and of course upload my own.
I FINALLY GOT AHP WORKING JUST NEED A LONGER CABLE AHFOUFBLANLNGANLI
/excitement

[MT1012]

someone's jumping joy

[shakotan_strafer]

Holy shit. Kuja Assist for the fuckin win.

I just tried Heavenly Strike > Snatch shot > Mega Flare while Snatch Shot is being commenced > Assist Change > Heavenly Strike/Sonic Wings/Diamond Dust.

Although I was able to do this once so I can't really have enough info (unless someone discovered this before me). There's some strict timing to it.

Apparently Hellfire is a good replacement for Mega Flare but isn't as badass.

i think this has gone unanswered lol
under the right conditions, this would probably work, but i couldnt do it. but i found an alternative:

heavenly strike -> kuja ground brave -> during assist, use diamond dust -> assist chase -> diamond dust again/sonic wings/ heavenly strike.

this combo is a bit harder to time, since you have to make sure you time your first diamond dust, so that it dosent knock your opponent of the assist attack. theair version of kujas assist takes too far away to do anything properly.

but yeah, combo seemed interesting enough for me to try, hopefully something can be done to make it easier.

[BRKNglassIncarnate]

i think this has gone unanswered lol
under the right conditions, this would probably work, but i couldnt do it. but i found an alternative:

heavenly strike -> kuja ground brave -> during assist, use diamond dust -> assist chase -> diamond dust again/sonic wings/ heavenly strike.

this combo is a bit harder to time, since you have to make sure you time your first diamond dust, so that it dosent knock your opponent of the assist attack. theair version of kujas assist takes too far away to do anything properly.

but yeah, combo seemed interesting enough for me to try, hopefully something can be done to make it easier.

Lol. You have to do it pretty quick. When you call out your Asssit, that's when you DC and then go straight into Megaflare (In other words, when movement slows down when you call your Assist, DC immediately). I've tested it a few more times and it's much easier to land the HP attack when near a wall.It's a bit more difficult in an open space because sometimes Kuja's attack doesn't catch the opponent in time and Megaflare knocks them back or Megaflare moves back too much for the HP attack to land but you still have the Assist Chase to use Diamond Dust.

A much easier alternative is using Hellfire.

[shakotan_strafer]

i still cant get the assist chase of mega flare, even with dc. tested dc'ing in all directions, cant get it. there are times when i finish up mega flare, and the assist chase command appears, but it appears for a second, and your still recovering from megaflare, so its really really hard to get :(

i must be doing something wrong, lol, lets see if someone else can pull it of.

hellfire is easy enough though, but diamond dust is a better alternative, more brave damage.

[BRKNglassIncarnate]

Can someone try something out for me in a PvP battle?

Heavenly Strike (First two hits) > DC > Thor's Hammer

Yeah I know it isn't a combo, but I tried this against a CPU and Thor's Hammer acted like a dodge punisher thanks to its godly range.

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i still cant get the assist chase of mega flare, even with dc. tested dc'ing in all directions, cant get it. there are times when i finish up mega flare, and the assist chase command appears, but it appears for a second, and your still recovering from megaflare, so its really really hard to get :(

Nah you aren't doing it wrong if the Assist Chase Marker appears for a second because that's what happens to me. That's why I usually mash the X button until I Assist chase XD

[shakotan_strafer]

Can someone try something out for me in a PvP battle?
Heavenly Strike (First two hits) > DC > Thor's Hammer
Yeah I know it isn't a combo, but I tried this against a CPU and Thor's Hammer acted like a dodge punisher thanks to its godly range.
Nah you aren't doing it wrong if the Assist Chase Marker appears for a second because that's what happens to me. That's why I usually mash the X button until I Assist chase XD

yeah, that works lol, dodge punishing.
its just that if they decide to attack you after dodge, your screwed. thors hammer startup time ftl.
i still cant geddit even if i mash XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXX
http://onekeoneisland.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/gw_bush_disappoint_0112.jpg

[BRKNglassIncarnate]

yeah, that works lol, dodge punishing.
its just that if they decide to attack you after dodge, your screwed. thors hammer startup time ftl.
i still cant geddit even if i mash XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXX

It works in PvP? HUZZAH!
But yeah that might screw you up but hey, mindgames right? XD

Really? I always get the Assist Chase at least 70-80% of the time XP

[shakotan_strafer]

yes, mindf*ck the opponent to oblivion.
thats how we roll.

[BRKNglassIncarnate]

Gawd I'm starting to want to main Yuna XP

[DevilTrigger]

In the same token, I don't suppose Diamond Dust can be used if they choose to attack and it'll work? I'm under the assumption not, but if it does work then that could add to the mind game aspect. Of course, if they had the evasion boosting abilities it might not work period, or precision block which would probably cause double stagger

[BRKNglassIncarnate]

I actually tried replacing Thor's Hammer with Diamond Dust. I got it once but that was pretty much it. It's pretty difficult because DD doesn't have the same range as TH.

[shakotan_strafer]

depending on the attack, it can work.
for example, a wallrushed retaliating vaan using his spear would eat the attack, since dd has faster startup.
but who does that...LOL

all situational, but work nonetheless.

[DevilTrigger]

I never said it was a GOOD mindgame, but it's an option lol, and another option is never a bad thing. Shame we don't have frame data on everyone to see who it'd work against and who not....oh wait, don't we?

[shakotan_strafer]

oh shit!, we do, LOL
i totally forgot about ujhbn's tables XD
man im totally out of it today ._.

[BRKNglassIncarnate]

...

[/facepalm for feeling stupid]

[shakotan_strafer]

im so dissapoint in my self.
on another note, aldred has some interesting news for all of us later today. you will feel dissapoint.
http://onekeoneisland.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/gw_bush_disappoint_0112.jpg

[SilvaKairi]

lolz, dont you guys Feel dumb xD
(i finally get to play DDFF in a long time, I'll be contributing more by Tomrrow)
^.^

[shakotan_strafer]

thats good to hear, we havent heard from you in a while here in the yuna forums :)

[DevilTrigger]

Personally on aldreds news, I don't see the major deal (eavesdropping lolol), yes it sucks but it's not like people can do it on instinct or w/e, its a flaw of a very good move that only affects a very late point of said move, plus technially you can just precision block basically every move in the game anyway and cause guard stagger

Just my two cents in advance =p. Shak had better start the number crunching now xD

[Dread]

Personally on aldreds news, I don't see the major deal (eavesdropping lolol), yes it sucks but it's not like people can do it on instinct or w/e, its a flaw of a very good move that only affects a very late point of said move, plus technially you can just precision block basically every move in the game anyway and cause guard stagger

Just my two cents in advance =p. Shak had better start the number crunching now xD

You ninja'd me on the topic. lol

Aerospark may be block-able in certain circumstances (which is unknown as of now) but it still doesn't limit its usage. Maybe it was just a lucky "Just Guard" (I wasn't equipping Precision Block) in my part since I accidentally pressed R. Get my drift? xD
The opponent will still have to think twice since it's risky. Once they are staggered, Yuna is free to call an Assist or continue with Meteor Strike.

It's actually not a pretty big deal.

[shakotan_strafer]

yeah, i was kinda blowing it outta proportion, LOL
i got my friend to learn how to block it properly, then fought him. he couldnt block it when he saw it coming, so yah....

[Xamusa]

Mwahaha, another Yuna main here >:C ... lol
Just wanted to say and make myself known as a Yuna mainer 8D ftw...

Uhh to be on topic... Yuna epic? lmao, but when i read threads you guys research and stuff on combos n etc .. you guys sound so pro makes me feel like i suck xD
I always have bad timing on blocking and chase x_x And I always miss my opponent by attacking by 2cm T^T or something like that xD

Please be nice with me ;-;

[shakotan_strafer]

welcome to the yuna forums comrade!!! :)
yuna ftw :D
always good to have more people to talk with in here.
you from aus as well? what part? im from aus too!! got adhoc party?

dont worry about your yuna game when you first start out, everyone was pretty much like that, adjusting to her ranges and stuff. just give it time, like anything.

[Xamusa]

Awesome :P
Yep, I'm from Perth, Western Australia :P
As for adhoc party... I have it but got no idea how to connect online on my psp. Idk if I need any important cables or any stuff required since I didnt look up on how to connect

[Firestorm]

(everyone is from Aus.....EVERYONE!!!!! *implies he lives in NSW*) and there's two people I didn't know were from Aus that I found out were today, cool. (well, three, but I haven't seen you yet Skyre, so I didn't count you :p)

Yuna is officially my main, so I'll look through this and see if I can give any help on how to use her (yeah right, I'll get owned straight away lol) and I'll probably ask for help later :D

[RionNagase]

I'm not from aus, lulz. But anyways, welcome Skyre21 to the realm of the summoner~ Please don't forget to wear your horn at all times to prove you're a summoner~ Just joking, don't worry we're all nice. XD Anyways, Yuna is awesome and we are the group who is trying prove that to all. On an unrelated note, I wonder if I'm the only Asian person in this particular forum?

[BRKNglassIncarnate]

<------ Asian

[DevilTrigger]

I'm Canadian so yay diversity =D. Of course, I'm sub summoner, not main summoner

[Cloud of Darkness]

I'm seriously loving Yuna A LOT more since I got the game. At first I got bored of her, but now I can't stop using her. I found Terra's Graviga assist to be my favorite choice. Graviga itself is a bit hard to dodge, plus Terra's charge time practically magnetizes enemies to her in an attempt to lock her, leaving themselves open to a Hellfire or Energy Ray which can even push them up into Graviga then down into whatever you like. This assist offers a great pressure game and combo opportunities.
Here are some I have performed :
Graviga Assist -> Hellfire -> Graviga -> Aerospark
Graviga Assist -> Energy Ray -> Graviga -> Jump -> Megaflare
Graviga Assist -> Sonic Wings -> Graviga -> Diamond Dust
Graviga Assist -> Hellfire -> Graviga -> Hellfire (My most used one)

I'm totally making her my new main, Ulti can be second xP
Oh and the Graviga Assist works quite well in PvP, the enemy can be punished almost either way, oh and what is very cruel is : Graviga Assist -> Sonic Wings or Aerospark -> CHASE -> Then watch Graviga hit them even as they dodge in chase ^,^

[SilvaKairi]

Hahaha another has joined our Ranks, Welcome aboard.

(I got Even more sad news, My PSP seems to be unable to read my Mem stick, sooo i gottta wait for Repairs........Again.)

[Cloud of Darkness]

Aww that stinks Tabi Dx
You only do Xlink Kai still? If you have AHP I'd love to have a few matches with you for Yuna matchup data.
And let's hope we don't get a Yuna army xP

[SilvaKairi]

Yes more Troubles for me after another :( but i can wait ^.^
Yes i only have Kai Atm, but i plan on getting AHP as soon as possible.

Awwwww No Yuna Army T.T

Kk new subject
How to Deal With kuja

[Cloud of Darkness]

Awesome, can't wait to fight your Emperor x)

Anyways, I deal with the AI by waiting for it to act ; blocking and countering is easy sometimes. I don't usually have a problem with his HP's though, I just dodge, dash and catch him with Sonic Wings. I don't think he gives me that much trouble tbh.

[Myth3842]

So, Smiting Soul build on Yuna, am I terrible person for spamming Mega Flare and winning every match in 1 or 2 hits? And just so you know I only did this on 000 chapter and nowhere else, I was just desperate to unlock everything and farm massive amounts of KP.

[Cloud of Darkness]

Well its that or other methods of getting through 000

[RionNagase]

I think that the best build for Yuna is the EX Mode/EX Revenge build. With my build I had to use a couple of the Hacked Accessories to make my build because all the other accessories I used before have negative stats.

This is my build as well as my Equipment and abilities/moves.

Abilities

BRV (Ground)

Neutral): Meteor Strike
Towards Enemy): Aerospark
Away from Enemy): Energy Blast

BRV (Air)

Neutral): Sonic Wings
Up): Heavenly Strike
Down): Impulse

HP (Ground)

Neutral): Energy Ray
Towards Enemy):
Away From Enemy): Hellfire

HP (Air)

Neutral): Megaflare
Up): Thor's Hammer
Down): Diamond Dust

Basic Abilities

Actions

Ground Evasion
Midair Evasion
Ground Block
Midair Block
Wall Jump
Free Air Dash
Omni Ground Dash+
Free Air Dash Boost
Assist Gauge Up Dash
Speed Boost++
Evasion Boost
Descent Speed Boost

Support

Always Target Indicator
EX Core Lock On
Assist Lock On
Auto Recovery

Extra

Precision Block
EX Critical Boost
Fragile Pride
Exp to EX

Equipment

Weapon: Spira's Hope
Gloves: Blue Moon
Hats/Helms: Chaplet
Armor/Clothes: Snowflake Sweater

Accessories

Close to You
Troubled Soul
Endless Despair
Fake Mustache
Hero's Essence
Spider Silk
Spider Web
Spider's Bane
Back-Breaking Straw
Mystic Guard

This is all I use for my Yuna.

[Dark_Ansem]

bit masochistic choice in 012, considering how difficult to get in Ex-mode is :D
isn't Endless despair a AI-only accessory?

[gray_kaiser]

bit masochistic choice in 012, considering how difficult to get in Ex-mode is :D
isn't Endless despair a AI-only accessory?

Is it a Time Booster Acc., am I not right?

[Dark_Ansem]

I think you are, known in Feral Chaos battle.

[RionNagase]

bit masochistic choice in 012, considering how difficult to get in Ex-mode is :D
isn't Endless despair a AI-only accessory?


I did say I used a few hacked accessories. That means I got them through Cwcheat. I wanted to go to EX Mode/EX Revenge. Yuna works pretty well with EX Mode/EX Revenge, she's very strong at that.

[CakeMix]

I don't know if this has been asked/mentioned, I'm pretty sure it has though, but what assists are you all using?

I'm using Tidus as his air Bravery leads to assist chase and his ground can exploit a link glitch with Shiva's Heavenly Strike. Same with itself (Shiva) and Bahamut's Impulse.

[RionNagase]

I use either Jecht or Kuja they are helpful assists. As far as I know, Jecht is the better one though......he's the only one who allows me to use the link glitch Blizzard Impact. Other than that, if I wanted Assist Chase it is Kuja who helps me out.

[BRKNglassIncarnate]

I use Kuja since he's pretty awesome for me.

You can also do Blizzard Impulse with Kuja. You just need to DC backwards and then do full charged Impulse.

[CakeMix]

Why is Kuja such a popular assist? I know he can Assist Chase but other than that...

[EmWy]

Why is Kuja such a popular assist? I know he can Assist Chase but other than that...

It's the man-thong.

[BRKNglassIncarnate]

Why is Kuja such a popular assist? I know he can Assist Chase but other than that...

Because his Ground Assist Bravery last for quite a long time, enough to land another Bravery attack or an HP attack. If you time it right, you have enough time to make your opponent get hit by the last attack of Kuja and still get Assist Chase. So:

Heavenly Strike > Ground Kuja Assist > Hellfire (while attack commences) > Assist Chase > Heavenly Strike/Sonic Wings/Diamond Dust

Will this work in PvP? Tbh, I don't really know because I still don't have my AHP set up yet. When I do, I'll probably post some vids :P

[RyuHiroshi]

I think Diamond Dust is easier to use there, and yes it works in PvP. You can do the same with Onion Knight, Sephiroth seems to be a bit problematic...

[shakotan_strafer]

Because his Ground Assist Bravery last for quite a long time, enough to land another Bravery attack or an HP attack. If you time it right, you have enough time to make your opponent get hit by the last attack of Kuja and still get Assist Chase. So:

Heavenly Strike > Ground Kuja Assist > Hellfire (while attack commences) > Assist Chase > Heavenly Strike/Sonic Wings/Diamond Dust

Will this work in PvP? Tbh, I don't really know because I still don't have my AHP set up yet. When I do, I'll probably post some vids :P

the timing for kuja and hellfire is pretty strict, you have to make sure your timing hellfire just before kujas "balls", no homo, create a ring. but yeah, it works somewhat, but its not consistent.

[Miguel Caballero Rojo]

mostly i use jecht as the yuna assist...

*opponent wall rushed* (mid-air) > Jecht assist (mid-air) > *opponent on the ground* > "BURN EVERYTHIN IN SIGHT" > *BOOM*

but tidus is also an awesome assist for yuna, lmao

[kromulus]

Well Zidane is godd Assist too.
While he's hititng the enemy....Yuna can Charge Impulse for example or do Sonic wind twice (before and after Chase)

[poopsman]

so far Zidane seems like a pretty solid assist for me as well, had a hard time parring up with tidus, maybe someone worked something out with him

[ShadowRoxasXIII]

so far Zidane seems like a pretty solid assist for me as well, had a hard time parring up with tidus, maybe someone worked something out with him I find Zidane to be a pretty good assist, but Jecht is fairly good as well. Tidus assist doesn't seem to work with me. Maybe it's just me. But I'd prefer to use Zidane or Jecht. I've tried out a Kuja assist and it's ok.

[ppfdee]

I've been using Yuna for a bit and I find her fun to use. I'm still getting used to her range though.

Anyways, sharing a vid of me using Yuna against a friend. Criticisms are very welcome. :D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhjF_oSLzlE

[SilvaKairi]

Nice Yuna :3 Good job on on imcorperating the Impulse -> Heavenly Strike Glitch ^.^ very nice. Also like how you stop mid way during Yuna's attack, to do an assist combo :3.

Another thing is that, dont always do the Jecht assist -> Mega Flare combo, cuz as seen in the vid sometimes it doesnt always connect, and, there are times you may have been able to do a Break instead.

And lastly, try not to rely on Chase so much, Yuna is perfectly Capable to do a lot of dmg without Chase. plus theres a chance you may end up getting hit, and stuff when ya dont want too.

[ppfdee]

Thanks for the reply, much appreciated. :D



Another thing is that, dont always do the Jecht assist -> Mega Flare combo, cuz as seen in the vid sometimes it doesnt always connect, and, there are times you may have been able to do a Break instead.

I noticed that as well. Currently I'm experimenting on other combos with Jecht which utilizes Yuna's options.



And lastly, try not to rely on Chase so much, Yuna is perfectly Capable to do a lot of dmg without Chase. plus theres a chance you may end up getting hit, and stuff when ya dont want too.

I'll keep that in mind.

[Miguel Caballero Rojo]

Another thing is that, dont always do the Jecht assist -> Mega Flare combo, cuz as seen in the vid sometimes it doesnt always connect, and, there are times you may have been able to do a Break instead.



yea, but the chance that u'll hit the opponent is high..
u can also use energy ray instead of mega flare

[Kit]

Onion Knight seems to be good diamond dust-> OK assist -> Sonic wings

[poopsman]

good video, yeah same critiques as everyone else. watch that mega flare, watching the mid air cancel into assist combo with ject was awesome, was trying to figure something out with him and well what do you know lol you beat me to it :] really nice

[RionNagase]

I have an interesting combo that you guys can try out. It requires you using Terra as an assist.

I've done this move a couple of times and it works on people as well, but it is hard to get the timing right. But the damage accumulated in the end is awesome.

Basically learn the timing of when Terra summons and drops her Graviga attack. It will be important because for the combo you'll need to know the exact timing for the casting and release of Graviga.

Here is the combo

(Terra Ground Assist) > Aerospark(wait then press the button to make sure all of it hits) > Chase Cancel or don't either way the Graviga attack will happen if you got the timing right > Thor's Hammer/Mega Flare/Heavenly Strike/or any other move you want to use

I prefer using Thor's Hammer, Mega Flare, or my favorite the Link Glitch Blizzard Impact. XD

[GrandSummoner]

Yuna's range is why I gave her alot of accessories and armor dealing with EX mode, her double summons maximize the length and power of her attacks, making these alot easier for me and causes me to not really rely on an assist char. (Jecht)

[Stevie]

Yuna's range is why I gave her alot of accessories and armor dealing with EX mode, her double summons maximize the length and power of her attacks, making these alot easier for me and causes me to not really rely on an assist char. (Jecht)

yes my yuna build is more about getting her into EX Mode due to the double summon effects... but assists can be good for linking into either mega flare or laser blast (or whatever valfour hp attack is) I also leant a pretty good EX Revenge combo for her with i do is heavenly strike - impulse (quick press) - sonic wing.. works great if your using aerith as an assist you could carry it on with her assist and then chase canceling XD

[Cloud of Darkness]

I prefer Exdeath assist.. : Heavenly Strike x1 -> Hurricane -> Heavenly Strike x2 -> DC -> Sonic Wings x1 -> Assist Chase -> Diamond Dust.. | Diamond Dust -> -> Hurricane (Early execution required) -> DC -> Diamond Dust -> Assist Chase -> Diamond Dust (Yeah, 3 Diamond Dusts).. | Sonic Wings x1 -> Hurricane (Early execution required) -> DC -> Sonic Wings x1 -> Assist Chase -> Diamond Dust.. In certain cases I've been able to do Sonic Wings x2, but a lot of times it knocks them out of Hurricane, hence Sonic Wings x1. (x1 / x2 means the segments of the attack, not doing said move twice) Also with Exdeath, a Dodge punish strategy : Heavenly Strike -> Ground Rush -> Sword Dance -> Mega Flare.. Works 90% of the time since Sword Dance staggers blocks and Mega Flare punishes their dodge.

[SummonerAmaterasu]

You use Exdeath?

Hmm.....Ive never really tried him out. I never thought that he could make any comboes. since he's so slow. I'll try some of those out later. see how good they are.

[Aya Fannon Brea Lightning]

Here are some Combos I experimented with Lightning Assist A While Ago i also have some for Jecht but they need to be timed right(Forgive me if All of them start with Heavenly strike)
Heavenly Strike(One hit only)->Aerial Lightning Assist Smite->Sonic Wings->Chase
Heavenly Strike(One Hit only)->Aerial Lightning Assist Smite->Diamond Dust
Heavenly Strike(One Hit Only)->Aerial Lightning Assist Smite->Meteor Strike
Heavenly strike(O H O)->Lightning Assist->AeroSpark
Heavenly strike(O H O)->Lightning Assist->Energy Blast
Heavenly Strike(I Think you get the idea by now)->Lightning Assist->Heavenly strike
Heavenly strike->Lightning Assist->Thor's Hammer

[Cloud of Darkness]

Here's a fun Jecht assist combo that implements a link glitch : Heavenly Strike x2 -> Jecht assist -> Impulse (Charge until Jecht is about to WR) -> DC -> Heavenly Strike link glitch. You can also start this with Diamond Dust, and Sonic Wings, the latter is harder imo. Also, Jecht assist allows for great combo variety, he's very good for those who like a lot of combo options. As for me, I'm sticking with the tree o3o

[LXD92]

Maybe someone have noticed this before but, Yuna have the same option with the Aerith Combo as Zidane.

Either:

Diamond Dust > Aerith > wait > Diamond Dust > Aerith before Diamond Dust connects > Diamond Dust

or, Catch them with Aerith after a BRV move and do the same as above but with only 2HPs insteed of 3