D Chaos Gameplay

[Kryxis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gyCXnJG3nY I uploaded a match right after I unlocked him, I'm level 1 while WoL is 6 on max difficulty.
Edit:
Thank you D:

[Khell]

tag it with [*SPOILER]x[/SPOILER] (remove the *, place the text where the x is).

Also I'm not over how cool he looks, but he's definitely not someone I'll be playing a lot of D:

[Fayt]

What the hell was that!?!?!?!?!? <.<

[Nevfx]

He should have been called "Feral Chaos".

[Fayt]

Let me guess...The we have to face that form of Chaos for the last boss right? >.<

[TWOxACROSS]

Awesome, man. Thanks for showing us this n.n

He does look fun to play, I have to say n.n

[Zabimaru98]

that was awesome!

[holy0crux]

Desperado's HP attacks are all in Latin.

Ventus Ire? Something about wind...
Cuo Vadis.

Regnum Dei is his EX burst

Nex Ultimas? Do any Latin speakers make heads or tails of this?

[BrilliantCataclysm]

The song was true.
"Gone in a second, ultimate destruction" D:

[Statistic]

I'll deff. be using this beast for some fun. B]

[runic]

Yeah, that'll work. But still, if they were going to create a new exclusive character, then why did they have to make it form of another? I don't know why, but this bothers me so much.

EDIT:
You know, at the end of his EX burst, he pretty much says its game over.

[Cloud of Darkness]

Is he possible as an Assist? Ulti / Desperado Chaos = Latin team of destruction.

[Kryxis]

I haven't touched him since that match been trying to figure out how to unlock Prishe and Gilgamesh, But when I do I'm going straight back to him D:

Edit:
When I unlock the two of them if anyone wants I can upload my save I only have one 100 and that's Vaan I also have all the items since I used cwcheats for puppeteers wheel and crap since I don't have time to grind 5 characters to 100 to take on one character.

[Cloud of Darkness]

Oh, then can you at least tell me how you unlocked him :3
Was it a secret dungeon mode or the main story?
And is his EX burst's final hit avoidable? Or is it a close range grab?

[Kryxis]

http://dissidiaforums.com/showthread.php?7616-How-to-Unlock-Characters I didn't use this to get him but it'll be much more detailed than what I could type up, And no you can't avoid his last hit all he has to do is hit R+Square and anywhere in the arena he automatically grabs you.

[Cloud of Darkness]

Well that sounds broken, but sensible since it IS his EX burst, and EX Bursts guarantee a HP hit.

[Hella-Bright]

Oh... I can see... so many people maining him.... So many horrible players...

[Cloud of Darkness]

It isn't that hard to beat horrible players though... Unless they decide to do an OP build... But then you can have a ruleset :3
Seriously though, without CWcheats, I doubt too many of those horrible players would be able to get him, riiight :3

[Khell]

Downloading saves say hi D: Anyone could have access to him if there's a save available.

[Hella-Bright]

It isn't that hard to beat horrible players though... Unless they decide to do an OP build... But then you can have a ruleset :3
Seriously though, without CWcheats, I doubt too many of those horrible players would be able to get him, riiight :3

But... but I thought he was unlockable... WHAAT IZ THEEEESS!!!!???

[Khell]

He is, CoD's trying to imply (and hope) that most people wouldn't have the patience or skill to beat a Desperado Chaos with 126k hp :P

[Cloud of Darkness]

No, no no, he is, but couldn't people use CWcheats to get him without unlocking him?
Sorry I mislead you there.

[RE-EDIT] Thanks ;)

[Khell]

At least his EX Burst is all kinds of awesome. I'd love to use that just once at least.

(I took a guess and was wrong, but changed it to CoD cause "he is, he's implying" doesn't really flow or make much sense :P)

[Kryxis]

Guess I should withhold my save and just PM it to people that could make good use of it.

[Hella-Bright]

OH, I wouldn't have the patience... but I wouldn't really need him anyway. But once I would get used to the game I would take a crack at it.

[Nexus_Nocturnal]

I can't wait to fight him as Kuja :3

[Fayt]

Lighting will own Chaos! >: )

[Meroki]

Am I the only one that thinks he looks like mages might give him a hard time on the larger stages? He looks like he's all close-range, in-your-face Bravery rape, and I didn't see anything that looked like it would counter a smart mage who was playing it safe from afar. Granted, he's at level 1 in this video, so he might get something later...

EDIT: On another note, his EX Burst just allows him to beat the crap out of the opponent for a short time? Can they still dodge/block?

[Cloud of Darkness]

At least his EX Burst is all kinds of awesome. I'd love to use that just once at least.

(I took a guess and was wrong, but changed it to CoD cause "he is, he's implying" doesn't really flow or make much sense :P)

No problem, I've been called a she before, no offense, my name is CoD :rolleyes:
Anyways, I don't think he can be THAT hard with the awesome team of *Drum Roll* :
Tifa / Yuna / Emperor / Squall / Ultimecia
Soften him up for Ulti's final blow >=]

And it looks that way, the only thing that can't be avoided is his HP part since that is always guaranteed in an EX burst... Unless you don't activate it xD
Anyways, I think it is WAY to early to discuss his abilities against mages until more people get a hold of him and post videos.

[Khell]

The video in the first post certainly seemed like the opponent could still move. I don't know about blocks, but you could certainly dodge, probably.

I'd probably stick to my guns and use Shantotto, Prishe, WoL, Golbez and Firion (provided Prishe is unlocked by that point anyway). If I need a kill shot bad, Firion would probably be the man to turn to with Lord of Arms.

Edit: In the aforementioned video, 1:05 shows WoL dodging, but still getting owned by the follow-through.

[Cloud of Darkness]

I wonder how the AI is for him, is he all "Up in your face" cause if he is I'll be mad at first, but there is always a way to beat those types of bosses, such as camping around a Charged Knight's Spear and using Ulti's DDFF Brokenness to defeat him >:3

[Kraid]

He's pretty nasty to beat.

Also I have unlocked him and am having a lot of fun with him. Will upload a video. (Though it won't have everything. It will eventually though.)

[テツヤ Kuroko]

He certainly looks like a shit ton of fun. Can't wait to unlock him. :3

But apparently you also unlock Gilgamesh/Prishe in 000.

[TKG09]

o that EX burst is so badass

[Spiritreapr]

still wondering what his EX burst does besides confuse the crap out of newbs

oh, and that confirms that the higher lvl he gets the more bravery he loses periodically, or its a certain percentage, was too busy lookin at pure awesomeness to pay too much attention, i replayed his beginning roar so many times

[Khell]

It just tells you to rack up as much BRV as you can within the alloted time, then hit R + Square to activate the HP hit.

[Spiritreapr]

but dont i do that anyway...? -.-, kinda lame tbh

[SilvaKairi]

Omg, D Chaos Soooooo Cool!

[Khell]

The "gimmick" of this EX Burst is that you can directly control D Chaos though. So your plan of attack could be different in every EX burst, but I'm pretty sure it's limited to only BRV attacks for obvious reasons.

[I'Cie]

.........
SON OF A-----
.....
I - I cant even finish that curse?!
it hurt just to look at that!
So -much - RAPE!!!
I solemnly swear to play the minimum of 8 hours a day with him, feed him the carcasses of all the cast, and whenever possible,
open his gate and record the pure destruction which is Desperado Chaos.

[Kraid]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNkh6bRKXB8

[Spiritreapr]

ya but if the enemy can attack you then depending on your strategy you could always be in EX burst, just get a small stage and use bravery attacks, well i suppose itll be fun *has stroke of genius* during EX bursts all hits are critical, thaaaaats why, nvm, hes cool =)

[Daedry]

he seriously look awesome to play with
but considering the fact that his bravery falls and that he can only use his ex mode once in a match, i dont think he's broken

while playing Gilgy we can manage to lower his ex gauge and BAM hes well done i think

but i'll try it since he seriously look like to rape
love the beginning scream

[Indrajala]

D.Chaos is just simply delicious. Nice gameplay Kraid

[Kraid]

He can't use EX-Mode at all (at the moment, there may be a way to do this) unless you put something like a Arcane Resin in. He is however a lot of fun and has some really powerful attacks that just offsets all of his bad points.

[Spiritreapr]

im gonna be using my EX boosters on him then since i dont have a reason to use them on anyone else...

[Statistic]

Can D.Chaos use assists?

[Meroki]

No EX? Does he have Assists? I seem to remember reading that his Assist gauge didn't fill in another video, and I don't think it filled in this one either?

[Dragon Lancet]

Ex burst=DEATH! that was... I don´t know how to describe it... that was way beyond than overkill D:...

[Kraid]

Doesn't seem to have Assists or Ex I'm afraid guys. But again, I should note his brave attacks are VERY good and his HPs seem really good as well. He may not need Assist or EX.

[UltimaMM]

Apparently, You need to equip certain abilities to use EX or Assist. It's supposed to be part of his gimmick.

[Statistic]

I'm fine with that entirely, so long as he is playable. I'd rather playable then broken. x3

[Meroki]

I can't really tell based on these videos, but do his attacks stagger guards or have any other special properties?

And given that he has all the restrictions the other characters have in addition to having no EX or Assist (outside of Resins or special items) pretty much ensures he won't be broken. I'm actually pretty proud of SE. I was half expecting him to pull out some type of massively broken attack with a stupidly long animation that he can spam repeatedly. Maybe summon Knights of the Round or some such.

[Spiritreapr]

i was thinking have that one move chaos uses that ensnares the opponent in swords, brings them up and slams them down, forgot the name, but im actually kinda glad he doesnt, its not worth getting around that again to get to use the ability, i can go without it

[Meroki]

i was thinking have that one move chaos uses that ensnares the opponent in swords, brings them up and slams them down, forgot the name, but im actually kinda glad he doesnt, its not worth getting around that again to get to use the ability, i can go without it

Divine Punishment? I think that was it. I pray to every possible deity that D. Chaos doesn't get that, or if he does I hope that it gets a pretty big nerf from the boss version. Online matches with him would probably devolve into him spamming it, considering that it can be kind of tricky to dodge when you first encounter it and can't really be reliably countered (as far as I know) unless you have an attack like Terra's Tornado.

[Spiritreapr]

or onion knights wind shear, or exdeaths omni block, so im told, i just use a combination of jumps and dodges in a timed manner to avoid and counter but ya, i see what your saying

[Meroki]

Desperado's HP attacks are all in Latin.

Ventus Ire? Something about wind...
Cuo Vadis.

Regnum Dei is his EX burst

Nex Ultimas? Do any Latin speakers make heads or tails of this?

Dunno about "Ventus Ire" or "Cuo Vadis," but, according to the FFWiki, "Regnum Dei" means "Kingdom of God" and "Nex Ultimas" means "Final Slaughter."

[Spiritreapr]

watched that video for the 10th time, woops, i found some drool...

[ShiHikari]

Holy shi- *Goes boom* Im still trying to progress WTH happened in that...Ex Attack...All I can say is, "Chuck Norris aint got nothin' on this Chaos"

[Spiritreapr]

i think i figured out a strategy to using his EX burst, use his EX mode since its the same as his EX burst, no guaranteed criticals, but once your almost out of EX mode u use the EX burst which basically gives you 19 more seconds

[ShiHikari]

Actually, I watched the Ex mode rampage closely. Sometimes D.Chaos's BRV falls down, sometimes drastically, thats the key to getting around his Ex. Watch for the BRV, then BREAK him. Lets the seconds go, keep bashin' him, then your home free.

[Kraid]

OK so I checked out his abilities. He has three EXTRA abilities exclusive to him:

Brave
EX
Assist

Equipping each one removes his handicap. So for the Brave one, Brave won't drop, for EX he'll gain EX and for Assist he'll gain Assist.

However this adds to more hefty costs: It's 50 CP per MASTERED ability (70 per non.)

Pretty much all his brave attacks can seem to hit through guards at certain times. A few I've been able to break through shield of light easily.

I got more videos later, but now I know how to access his Ex-mode and such like, expect some more gameplay stuff.

[Spiritreapr]

I got more videos later, but now I know how to access his Ex-mode and such like, expect some more gameplay stuff.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kraid;235511]OK so I checked out his abilities. He has three EXTRA abilities exclusive to him:

Brave
EX
Assist

Equipping each one removes his handicap. So for the Brave one, Brave won't drop, for EX he'll gain EX and for Assist he'll gain Assist.

wow, something went realy wrong with that quote

However this adds to more hefty costs: It's 50 CP per MASTERED ability (70 per non.)

Pretty much all his brave attacks can seem to hit through guards at certain times. A few I've been able to break through shield of light easily.

sweet, could i possibly ask for the complete cg cutscene or a chaos vs d chaos/d chaos vs d chaos vid? just throwin that out there...>.>

[Zodiark]

Desperado's HP attacks are all in Latin.

Ventus Ire? Something about wind...
Cuo Vadis.

Regnum Dei is his EX burst

Nex Ultimas? Do any Latin speakers make heads or tails of this?

I put them words into my lame latin dictionary.

Regnum means Kingdom.
I try to put Dei in there, nothing comes up.
Deinde comes up though, which means next or then.

Ventus Ire
Ventus is Wind. Everybody knows that probably.
Ire is go.

Nex means Slaughter, and Violent Death. nothing for Ultimas though...But Ultima means The End.

[murkrowrob]

Do we have to beat the 120k hp one to unlock him O_o ? Wow, i'm gonna fail.

Looks like fun to play with seeing as there's a LOT of rape in there. I'm fine with abilities to get rid of disadvantages, if I can afford them...

[Feonax]

Phew, he has abilities to remove the handicaps. I was seriously considering leaving him at level 1 if I had to use resins for EX Mode.

[ShiHikari]

Lol, why bother leaving him at 1? He looks pretty damn awesome to play as, And I knowas hell that ill unlock him.=3

[TheRebelMage]

heres him at level 100
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncaVb_AHJEo


And holy S***! am i the only one who wants to see a onion knight vs d chaos video.
(request)

[Feonax]

heres him at level 100
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncaVb_AHJEo


And holy S***! am i the only one who wants to see a onion knight vs d chaos video.
(request)

RESPECT. Garland is helpless.

Oh cool. Not only does D. Chaos shatter a hole in reality when he executes his EX Burst, he subsequently proceeds to shatter a hole in the EX-space. Now that's manly.

[Eferthad]

I put them words into my lame latin dictionary.

Regnum means Kingdom.
I try to put Dei in there, nothing comes up.
Deinde comes up though, which means next or then.

Ventus Ire
Ventus is Wind. Everybody knows that probably.
Ire is go.

Nex means Slaughter, and Violent Death. nothing for Ultimas though...But Ultima means The End.

Nothing will come up with dei. Latin, differently from english, have declinations, so "dei" is the singular genitive for "deus", it's a specification, and it means "of God". So, Regnum Dei must be translated as "God's Kingdom" or "Kingdom of God", if you prefer something more arcaic.

For "Ventus Ire", translating is more... tricky.
Let me explain: Ventus means wind, like you said, and Ire is the infinite for "Eo, Is - Ivi - Itum -Ire", so it means "to go" or "to become".
But there's a problem: Ventus is a nominative, so it's the subject. We can't, so, say "Wind to go" or "Wind to become". "To Become Wind" would have sense, but it seems like, well... forced.
So, i found Ira, that means "rage", and it's genitiv is "irae". It seems like a mistake from the SE team, considered that "Ventus irae" would mean "Wind of rage". It makes more sense, to me.

For "Nex Ultimas", Nex means death or slaughter, while ultimas.... It's strange: Nex is singular, while ultimas is plural, and even not nominative as Nex. To me, there's another mistake, and it should be "ultima", and not "ultimas".
I can say that cause ultima is the female singular for ultimus-a-um, which means last. So, if it was "Nex Ultima", it would be safe to translate it as "Last slaughter" or "last death".

[ShadCroly]

HOW THE HELL DO YOU BEAT THAT?!

Sweet Cosmos, that's gonna be painful... and the version you gotta beat to unlock him has 120,000 HP!? What's his level and AI difficulty? I'll freely admit I wasn't good enough to beat Inward Chaos in the first Dissidia, so just tell me now if I have any chance at all of unlocking this guy...

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

Resins baybee!

[Melkor]

Well considering that he's toned down in order to be a playable character, I'd say he'd be much easier than Chaos.

By which I mean, he'll actually have cool down and reasonable attack priorities.

Not like divine judgement, which could be done three times in a row, just after you thought it was safe to attack, thus restoring a broken chaos, breaking you, and then striking a death blow.

Whats more, with all his disabilities (No ex core of force, no assist, though I daresay he'll at least be able to pick up ex cores) he'll be much more balanced, and you'll have various advantages over him.

If anything the fight will be long and bitter, but not horribly unfair.

[Feonax]

He looks much harder than Chaos in my opinion. Chaos had slow moves which had horribly big broadcast times and were easy to block or dodge and then punish, Divine Punishment in particular.

[Viva L'Empereur]

D. Chaos on Edge of Madness looks broke as hell. Good luck avoiding his enormous attacks that crush guards on the tiniest stage in the game. Only Emperor stands a chance with his traps.

Edit-Maybe Exdeath too.

[Khell]

He's only toned down as a player character, the CPU still cheats. :P

[Kraid]

Desperado Chaos on Edge of Madness is not so much off an issue as him on Phantom Train.

He and Phantom Train go hand in hand more so than Emperor in Pandaemonium. Essentially it's 9-1 Desperado Chaos V ANYONE on Phantom Train.

His biggest weakness is his Vertical game. Horizontally he may be the best character ever, but he can easily be out zoned by Laguna from testing so far.

[Viva L'Empereur]

That's dumb. I am incredibly butthurt at this point that they added this character instead of somebody from FFVI or FFIX.

[Melkor]

Desperado Chaos on Edge of Madness is not so much off an issue as him on Phantom Train.

He and Phantom Train go hand in hand more so than Emperor in Pandaemonium. Essentially it's 9-1 Desperado Chaos V ANYONE on Phantom Train.

Oh Square... and you promised a balanced game.

I forsee a standard 'NO-D-CHAOS-NEED-APPLY' sign over every future tournament. X-X Or at least some sort of stage restriction, which is horribly boring.

[TheRebelMage]

yeah and also you attack him with your party. So if one party member dies, you'll have four more. Think of the Tabuu fight in SSBB

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

I dunno. Kraid makes it sound like he's balanced well enough. Phantom Train is gonna be annoying, but it's not like stages haven't already had a big hand in matchups thus far(Ulty vs Golbez on The Rift anyone).

[Viva L'Empereur]

I think he'll probably have some counterpicks. He doesn't seem to have that much in the way of ranged attacks I guess. Characters that can counter his melee will probably be the best counterpicks on small stages (Emperor with trapz, Exdeath with blockz, Jecht with his block?). Characters that can zone like a boss will probably beat him on the large stages. But it seems like many characters will have a hard time with him.

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

Again, from what Kraid said, it'll be more like fighting a inverse Exdeath: Ranged will be easier, with up close being harsh, but not unfathomable. As long as the melees are careful, it should be alright. Barring any future counterpicks of course.

[ShadCroly]

Again, from what Kraid said, it'll be more like fighting a inverse Exdeath: Ranged will be easier, with up close being harsh, but not unfathomable. As long as the melees are careful, it should be alright. Barring any future counterpicks of course.

So probably Terra and Kefka are gonna have the easiest time with him.

[TheRebelMage]

from what i've read it seems like these characters will do well vs. D chaos

Players who can get above him (Kain, Zidane, Kuja)
Players who fight from mid-long range(Golbez,Terra,Kefka,Laguna,Ultimeacia,Yuna,Sh ananto,maybe Vaan, maybe Lightning,)
Players who are good with blocking (Exdeath,Jecht)
Trap master( Mateus)

Theres more but I don't want to list them all

Edit: NINJA'D~

[Viva L'Empereur]

emperor seems like one of the best to me, hilariously, unless I'm misunderstanding how D. chaos works. To me it seems like he'll be like Jecht though where Emperor can just turtle him with traps.

Kain maybe. It depends how well Jump can fuck over Desperado's shit I think.

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

I'm still not quite sure on the ranged deal for certain mages: D.Chaos's high priority moves and large hitbox on them may prove troublesome to those who use single hit spells like Terra and Kefka. But this is now purely speculation

[Khell]

They totally need an option to play D Chaos as your entire 5 man team complete with the ungodly 125k+ HP.

[Spiritreapr]

You guys realize he has an attack that hits above with his claws, same one chaos had basically, also he had several range attacks including the one where he his the ground and fire erupts from under the opponent similar to s long range hellfire

[Kraid]

Yup. I know about that.

The 'Hell Fire' attack is REALLY easily seen and easy to block.

[Kotei]

The Emperor could give him trouble. He is so big, it seems he will have a hard time dodging some of his traps, due to his HUGE hitbox (I don't see him easily avoiding Prisons). Using Starfall is suicide however. Players who tend to use brute force won't do anything against D.Chaos. I can't wait to trap a entire team of Desperado Chaos. I would like to play him a bit also, his cons seem huge enough.

[Viva L'Empereur]

You guys realize he has an attack that hits above with his claws, same one chaos had basically, also he had several range attacks including the one where he his the ground and fire erupts from under the opponent similar to s long range hellfire

I don't see the emperor having problems with either of those attacks. The fire one seemed pretty telegraphed, plus emperor could just run away and spam light crest.

also in the firion vs. emperor vid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP1o0nPPU9g), I vaguely recall emperor having a new trap that launched vertical shots (:53-:55). so one way or another, a patient emperor could probably succeed. For most of d. chaos' attacks, he'll probably just end up spazzing out in a thunder crest.

Lawful Evil>Chaotic Evil

[Kraid]

D Chaos I think could rape Emperor. A lot of his attacks seem like it could just go straight through all the traps (Thunder and Prison.) His HP game could easily go straight through Emperor's Thunder Crest and I think most of D Chaos' Braves could reflect Flare.

D Chaos's best attack for Emperor would be the one which is a bunch of projectiles with what seems like High Priorty. This would be able to beat Starfall Magic Block easily. D Chaos could spam Emperor all day.

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

By the way Kraid, what would be your thoughts on D.Chaos vs Exdeath?

[Viva L'Empereur]

I thought thunder crest stuck around now even if Emperor got hit?

[holy0crux]

Nothing will come up with dei. Latin, differently from english, have declinations, so "dei" is the singular genitive for "deus", it's a specification, and it means "of God". So, Regnum Dei must be translated as "God's Kingdom" or "Kingdom of God", if you prefer something more arcaic.

For "Ventus Ire", translating is more... tricky.
Let me explain: Ventus means wind, like you said, and Ire is the infinite for "Eo, Is - Ivi - Itum -Ire", so it means "to go" or "to become".
But there's a problem: Ventus is a nominative, so it's the subject. We can't, so, say "Wind to go" or "Wind to become". "To Become Wind" would have sense, but it seems like, well... forced.
So, i found Ira, that means "rage", and it's genitiv is "irae". It seems like a mistake from the SE team, considered that "Ventus irae" would mean "Wind of rage". It makes more sense, to me.

For "Nex Ultimas", Nex means death or slaughter, while ultimas.... It's strange: Nex is singular, while ultimas is plural, and even not nominative as Nex. To me, there's another mistake, and it should be "ultima", and not "ultimas".
I can say that cause ultima is the female singular for ultimus-a-um, which means last. So, if it was "Nex Ultima", it would be safe to translate it as "Last slaughter" or "last death".

Because of the way Japanese works, they cannot write the words "Ventus Irae" and "Ventus Ire" very differently...Though it does make sense that it might incorrect...ヴぇントゥス・イレイ is a way to write "Ventus Irae" but that looks weird to me...

I misread ネクス・ウルティム... It really says "Nex Ultimus," not "Nex Ultimas." Haha, I don't know if that makes a difference, but sorry.

I've now also seen "Deus Iratus." I think that means "Angry God" from my little knowledge of Latin...

There is also "Via Dolorosa" which means "Painful Way" if Spanish helps me at all...

"Lucus Magnus." Great Light?

All of Chaos' attacks have such epic sounding names...

[K´Genesis]

Via Dolorosa = Painful Path
Way is a more loose translation, but it's not entirely wrong. Path is more accurate.

[Kraid]

By the way Kraid, what would be your thoughts on D.Chaos vs Exdeath?

Exdeath will need to learn to Omni Guard all attacks of Desperado Chaos to even stand a chance to survive.


I thought thunder crest stuck around now even if Emperor got hit?

I don't know about that, but I do know that quick attacks (such as Rough Divide) can pass right through Thunder Crest. Besides How is Emperor going to approach Desperado Chaos when he has an attack that is a two pronged Wave AND a High Priority Projectile that fires SEVERAL times?

[Viva L'Empereur]

Well damn. That makes me a sad Emperor.

[Eferthad]

Because of the way Japanese works, they cannot write the words "Ventus Irae" and "Ventus Ire" very differently...Though it does make sense that it might incorrect...ヴぇントゥス・イレイ is a way to write "Ventus Irae" but that looks weird to me...

I misread ネクス・ウルティム... It really says "Nex Ultimus," not "Nex Ultimas." Haha, I don't know if that makes a difference, but sorry.

I've now also seen "Deus Iratus." I think that means "Angry God" from my little knowledge of Latin...

There is also "Via Dolorosa" which means "Painful Way" if Spanish helps me at all...

"Lucus Magnus." Great Light?

All of Chaos' attacks have such epic sounding names...

Regarding "Nex Ultimus", are you sure that it's not ultima? Nex is a female noun, while ultimus would be a male one: ultimus is male, while ultima is female. Simple.

For "Deus Iratus" yes, it means "angry god"

"Via dolorosa" well, this is strange for me. Even if Painful path is more appropriate, being more arcaic, via dolorosa is written in the same exact way (and the meaning is the same) in Italian, and means "Painful way". So, easy for me :P

"Lucus Magnus" is very strange: lucus comes from the noun "Lucus-i", which means "Holy Forest" or simply "Forest". So... Big Forest? :|

For ventus ire/irae, we'll see when the NA version come out :)

[Feonax]

Say... Can all the handicap disabling abilities be equipped at once?

[Kuraudo_V6]

FYI, guys. Divine Punishment is a terrible move that is easy to dodge.

All you have to do is stand there. I am dead serious. The explosions of fire will circle you but never touch you. Then before the swords come out to ensnare you, just dodge to the side. Free punish/counterattack/sneak attack if you put on those abilities and all.

• Divine Punishment
• Just stand there
• Dodge at the last second
• Jump up towards him
• ????
• Profit!

[Nexus_Nocturnal]

Question, do you think Chaos will be legal in tournament play? He seems pretty boss but he does lack the ability to build any gauge at all and his BRV does drop constantly.

[Titanium Man]

Am I the only one who thinks D.Chaos's EX Burst should be called RROD?

I mean, let's think about it...it creates a red ring, and when it's over, it shuts you down...

[Fullmetal]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4zNY3LEFr0


I got him to level 100 today and he's fun as hell, only a little overpowered. His Tail HP attack is incredibly good, makes Rod of Arms look like a *****. The rest of his HP attacks are horribly situational, but still cover an extremely large area, and his brave attacks have odd hitboxes. He needs more testing

[Grade-Zero]

He seems ridiculous, although I haven't tried him. His huge hitbox might be a problem though, I wonder how difficult it would be for him to dodge attacks like Meteorain or Lord of Arms with multiple hits and decent range.

[TheRebelMage]

WOW. He's almost as wide as phantom train!

Looks fun...

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Oh gosh! his 2p makes me want to throw up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNkh6bRKXB8

Bleh.. He looks like a giant angry yoshi

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

FYI, guys. Divine Punishment is a terrible move that is easy to dodge.

All you have to do is stand there. I am dead serious. The explosions of fire will circle you but never touch you. Then before the swords come out to ensnare you, just dodge to the side. Free punish/counterattack/sneak attack if you put on those abilities and all.

• Divine Punishment
• Just stand there
• Dodge at the last second
• Jump up towards him
• ????
• Profit!

That may work.......if your hitbox isn't so big that you get hit by the fire pillars.

[DevilTrigger]

I think Kuraudo was talking about the last game (where everyone could by doing what he said)

Down the line, it's hard to say. However right now he has to be legal, he needs to be tested in a competitive scene for a while before anyone can decide if he should be banned or not. Initial impressions of characters are usually far from the truth later in the scene, as new techniques and combos and set ups are discovered. We have to let the meta game develop for a long time before considering banning and tiers.

[ShiHikari]

[/COLOR]Oh gosh! his 2p makes me want to throw up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNkh6bRKXB8

Bleh.. He looks like a giant angry yoshi

More like a screwed up mutant yoshi. I can imagine Mario trying to ride that damn thing but getting killed by his ExBurst. XD

[Lord-Zero]

You can have WoL's second alt or Garland ride him.

[Kuraudo_V6]

You can have WoL's second alt or Garland ride him.

Somebody put sound effects in place of D. Chaos' regular stuff. Of Yoshi. PRONTO.

[TheRebelMage]

AHA! i just got an idea for a texure. Prishe as Mario...
Back on topic I pretty much think that he'll be banned from tournaments.

[ShadCroly]

Somebody put sound effects in place of D. Chaos' regular stuff. Of Yoshi. PRONTO.

... D. Chaos has ceased to be Nightmare Fuel, and is now hilarious.

[DevilTrigger]

AHA! i just got an idea for a texure. Prishe as Mario...
Back on topic I pretty much think that he'll be banned from tournaments.

How can you ban him without testing or anything though. He needs a while in a scene before that can be considered

[Khell]

AHA! i just got an idea for a texure. Prishe as Mario...
Back on topic I pretty much think that he'll be banned from tournaments.

His attacks and abilities cost ABSURD amounts of CP. Veysey told me if you want to have 6 brv attacks and all his HP attacks AND his unlock abilities for EX and Assist, you'd need somewhere in the neighborhood of 750 CP. His costs are like twice as much as another character (for crit skills, etc)

Edit: Kraid informed me that the cost for HP attacks is 50 a piece, BRVs 30 a piece. Each ability that removes the Limit on EX, Assists, and his BRV drain are also 50 a piece. Yeah.

[ShadCroly]

His attacks and abilities cost ABSURD amounts of CP. Veysey told me if you want to have 6 brv attacks and all his HP attacks AND his unlock abilities for EX and Assist, you'd need somewhere in the neighborhood of 750 CP. His costs are like twice as much as another character (for crit skills, etc)

Edit: Kraid informed me that the cost for HP attacks is 50 a piece, BRVs 30 a piece. Each ability that removes the Limit on EX, Assists, and his BRV drain are also 50 a piece. Yeah.

There are people who are crazy good at these games. Even if they were only given a handful of D. Chaos's abilities, they'd still destroy pretty much everyone. I think his move pool alone would be grounds enough to ban his use in tournaments.

[Kraid]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT5-LAX0gTE&feature=feedu

[Khell]

With Kraid's current build, he's using D Chaos with the CP+ Accessories. He's got the limit of 510, but using 500. The basic skills (Dodge, Block, Omni Air Dash), 3 BRV attacks, 3 HP attacks, and all 3 "limiter" skills (the ones that remove the BRV drain, unlock his ability to obtain EX Force and Assist gauge). If he took of an HP attack or one of the limiter skills, he'd be at the 450 mark and legal for tournaments :/ lol

[Kraid]

I should note that Desperado Chaos is more like Sagat than Meta Knight when it comes to characters right now. At the moment his Metagame is undeveloped, this means there's no known 'real' counters to him.

I had a REALLY hard time against Hala's Laguna and actually ended up losing that match. (I couldn't get that close to him.) His vertical game is pretty bleh as well from what I've experienced right now. Just dodge the guy more than you block.

[Lord-Zero]

From what I've seen in that video, D. Chaos' attacks scream to be High Blocked.
Poor Yuna.

[Khell]

The problem with that is D Chaos is the KING of priority. Most of his attacks are really high in priority and will just clash with High Guard.

[Lord-Zero]

So it'll make Exdeath stagger?

[Aurelia F]

So 750 CP for all 'necessities' huh? What's the max CP you can get?

[Parallaxal]

450, plus accessories, at level 100. Ha!

[Feonax]

Nice of them to give him 450 CP on level 1 though. OrSoIHeard. >.>

[Lord-Zero]

450, plus accessories, at level 100. Ha!

Basically...like everyone else. Well I guess S-E did it so D. Chaos wouldn't be so broken. Anyway, that limit can be increased with accessories if memory serves. Not by much but enough to put in another attack.

[Aurelia F]

D:

My dreams of building him like everyone else is ruined. All I really want is a full attack set + no negative gimmicks. :rolleyes: I can really care less about sneak attack and all that other add-ons. I prioritize attacks over abilities for maximum fun. :o

If someone can manage to find the max CP you can possibly attain legitly in-game, let me know. :p

[Kuraudo_V6]

D:

My dreams of building him like everyone else is ruined. All I really want is a full attack set + no negative gimmicks. :rolleyes: I can really care less about sneak attack and all that other add-ons. I prioritize attacks over abilities for maximum fun. :o

If someone can manage to find the max CP you can possibly attain legitly in-game, let me know. :p

All I heard was "All I really want is a massive fast character whose broken as hell with no drawbacks."

Thank god for the way that he's built. There could be a few different styles of D.Chaos this way. XD

[Spiritreapr]

im glad they did it but this way hes got waaay too many handicaps, i excpected some but thats a crapload of em

[benfen]

Is taking off the BRV fall handicap really necessary? He steals BRV fast enough to offset it I thikn. Or so I've seen.

And if memory serves, Hero spiritx2+Hero essence=80 bonus CP.

So he's not to much of a CP gobbler, plus the crit+ abilities aren't really that necessary because 1. D.Chaos's attacks look to do absurd damage anyway, 2. Crits are nerfed, only doing double instead of the massive 5x bonus in DFF so you won't lose that much doing non crits and 3. The only 'essensial' crit+ abilities in DFF were Riposte, EX crit+ and Sneak Attack, but only Sneak attack if you were using Squall. Also I think I could go without assists with this beast.

[holy0crux]

Regarding "Nex Ultimus", are you sure that it's not ultima? Nex is a female noun, while ultimus would be a male one: ultimus is male, while ultima is female. Simple.

"Lucus Magnus" is very strange: lucus comes from the noun "Lucus-i", which means "Holy Forest" or simply "Forest". So... Big Forest? :|


I'm very sure on Nex UltimUs. I read it improperly the first time, but I've read it again and it says Nex UltimUs. It MIGHT say Necus Ultimus, but I don't know if that's a word...

It may be something like the word Rucus if there's a word like that. XD

[Spiritreapr]

we already went over that u can have different rules one of them most likely being the critical hit nerfing. also, how do i obtain hero accessories, i dont seem to have any

nvm, found them in the shop, wow, they really cost somethin, a whole rabbits foot AND a block ring

[holy0crux]

All I heard was "All I really want is a massive fast character whose broken as hell with no drawbacks."

Thank god for the way that he's built. There could be a few different styles of D.Chaos this way. XD

Agreed.

I wonder if we'll actually see standard Desperado builds. Like...You can only equip one of the cancel handicaps...

Honestly, I think removing any of his negatives makes him so much stronger. He's clearly very strong if the producers knew to add so many negative effects.

I think his EX Mode is GODLY. The fact you have 20 seconds to wreak havoc before initiating the final cutscene is amazing. The opponent literally has nowhere to run...

Can the Opponent attack during Desperado's Regnum Dei?

[benfen]

I don't know about the hero accessories, it's in the special category. I haven't gotten Hero Essence, but it's in the shop. It needs a rabbit foot which I don't have. I have two hero spirit though.

[Feonax]

Yep, the opponent can act during Regnum Dei.

[Viva L'Empereur]

Can the Opponent attack during Desperado's Regnum Dei?

During his EX Burst? Yes they can.

[Nevfx]

Yep, the opponent can act during Regnum Dei.

They can even go into EX MOde and use there own, like I saw I think it was Nero do with Yuna in one of his vids.

[Kuraudo_V6]

Wonder if you can EX Burst him right back DURING that procedure. Would be humiliating if you killed D.Chaos mid EX-Burst. LOL

[EDIT]

Ninja'd. lol

[benfen]

Does the counter keep going throughout the opponents EX-burst?

[Spiritreapr]

oh crap! i just remembered that accessories dont get transfered, man, i was really getting my hopes up with those hero arcanes, good thing i didnt press accept for the trade

[benfen]

And can you hit the final EX-burst (the swords+turning the screen off) in the opponents EX-burst?

[BrilliantCataclysm]

Jeez my latin was rusty.
Anyway, I made some translations:

Ventus Irae = Wind's Wrath (?)
Deus Iratos = Angry God(?) (It sucks, but I'm not pretty sure on that either)
Luxe Magnus = Couldn't figure that one out either, but it is something about a big light or fire tough.

Ex Burst - Regnum Dei = Kingdom of God
Ex Burst Final Attack - Nex Ultimus = Final Slaughter

[Feonax]

Deus Iratos = Angry God(?)

Anger of God?

Wonder if it's possible to kill D. Chaos during Regnum Dei for a hot victory area?

[Spiritreapr]

that would be cool, itd make sense sense when u beat chaos in inward chaos it says you surpassed the power of the gods so maybe in this game you take over the kingdom of the gods

[holy0crux]

OOH, FOUND TWO MORE!

Cuo Vandia, the one where he swipes and rises upwards...

FURAGORU Maximus. I have NO idea. "Fragol, Furagol, Flagor, Fulagor, Flagol, Fulagol, Furagolu, Furagoru, Fulagolu, Fulagoru." Do ANY of those words mean anything?


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Are there any attacks you CAN block...?

[Spiritreapr]

fragment, fragmentation...sike, probably fire firaga and flare

[Kraid]

You can block his Fire Pillar attacks. There's a couple more you can block iirc as well. But I don't use them.

[Aurelia F]

All I heard was "All I really want is a massive fast character whose broken as hell with no drawbacks."

Thank god for the way that he's built. There could be a few different styles of D.Chaos this way. XD

You misunderstand me. :p What I meant was enough CP to have him 'on par' with other characters, filling up his attack roster completely plus nullifying his negative gimmicks, even if that makes him crap because of the lack of crit abilities like Counterattack and such. I have more fun with a versatile moveset than a powerful build. :o I'm not asking for a D.Chaos gimmick retooling.

Seeing as the max is about 530 so far, my dreams just got crushed by 220 CP. ^^' I wouldn't mind some sort of option to have more CP in exchange for some of his power. :p

[Lord-Zero]

Deus Iratos could also be God's Wrath or Wrath of God.

So...beating D. Chaos with Exdeath shouldn't be too hard.
High Block, Omni Block, RP and maybe I should throw in Black Hole just in case.

[Khell]

You misunderstand me. :p What I meant was enough CP to have him 'on par' with other characters, filling up his attack roster completely plus nullifying his negative gimmicks, even if that makes him crap because of the lack of crit abilities like Counterattack and such. I have more fun with a versatile moveset than a powerful build. :o I'm not asking for a D.Chaos gimmick retooling.

Seeing as the max is about 530 so far, my dreams just got crushed by 220 CP. ^^' I wouldn't mind some sort of option to have more CP in exchange for some of his power. :p

That's not going to happen with the moveset he's packing. To put him "on par" with other characters would allow him to DESTROY anyone. You're essentially choosing between removing the limits or increasing the different ways you can attack someone, and that's the main drawback of his playstyle. The choices you make impact how he comes out on the field. In the end, he's still going to be a beast, but it could be a different kind of beast altogether.

[Kraid]

High Block is broken by most of DC's attacks. =P

[Aurelia F]

Ah well. One can dream. :p

[Lord-Zero]

High Block is broken by most of DC's attacks. =P

Cheap bastard...there goes my plan. Oh well, I guess I'll use the cheap route if I decide to unlock him.

[Meroki]

Is it just me, or does his EX Burst seem a bit underwhelming? The enemy can still act, so a good player could probably avoid damage except for the last hit. And in one video, I'm pretty sure I saw Yuna entering her own EX Mode and executing a Burst, which ended Regnum Dei completely.

[Ghurdrich]

FURAGORU Maximus. I have NO idea. "Fragol, Furagol, Flagor, Fulagor, Flagol, Fulagol, Furagolu, Furagoru, Fulagolu, Fulagoru." Do ANY of those words mean anything?

Sounds like maybe it's Fulgur, which means lightning.

[Lord-Zero]

@ Meroki: In a way, yes. They have a few seconds try and wipe out the berserked Yoshi. Or...build up enough Bravery to prevent break or...cause break on him and minimize damage.

[benfen]

But it still looks cool, right?

[Viva L'Empereur]

His EX burst can be either the strongest or the weakest depending what happens.

[Parallaxal]

In Kraid's video, the first part of DC's EX burst did 334 damage, and the finisher did 427 damage, for a total of 761 damage (no equips, level 100). If all you ever do is initiate the EX burst and immediately go into the finisher, its damage is already comparable to the EX bursts of other characters (NeroMD's Yuna's EX burst under same conditions did less than 700 with one command missed). The damage you do during the 20 seconds is just gravy.

[Aurelia F]

OH! OH!

No one has said anything yet about this.

DESPERADO CHAOS EX ABILITY - wut is it? ._.
Only thing I noticed was more hits on that attack that looked like Original Chaos' Demonsdance. In the first video in this thread, it's one hit per teleport, while in the 'Berserk Yoshi' video, he hit about 5 times per teleport. Can anyone confirm?

[Fullmetal]

I got into some PVP with Void, Kirbs, and Xeltos earlier. I recorded 2 fights with D. Chaos


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNsyhyfTbRU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eZiWpSTfbc



Pandemonium Omega is incredibly infuriating as Chaos, as you can see just hopping over a red panel can result in you being hit by tentacles several times before you can recover. Then that is of course balanced out by the absolute smackdown I unleashed onto Void in that corner, proving once again that small spaces = GOOD.

[benfen]

In the second vid, D. Chaos's BRV immediatley came back to base brave after Tifa comboed him during EX burst.

Also, what happens if the final EX burst hit doesn't kill them? Is it like Exdeaths? I would appreciate a video.

[Fullmetal]

In the second vid, D. Chaos's BRV immediatley came back to base brave after Tifa comboed him during EX burst.

Also, what happens if the final EX burst hit doesn't kill them? Is it like Exdeaths? I would appreciate a video.

No idea on the first question, I didn't notice it my self. But if it ends without killing them then it just returns to the normal stage, so I guess that answers your question .-.

[ShadCroly]

His EX burst can be either the strongest or the weakest depending what happens.

Excalipoor would like a word with you.

[hawk222]

Wait, where's the video where someone counters D. Chaos' EX Burst with their own? I believe it's possible, but I need to see it done!

[ShadCroly]

Wait, where's the video where someone counters D. Chaos' EX Burst with their own? I believe it's possible, but I need to see it done!

It's a Yuna vs D.Chaos video.

D.Chaos initiates his ExBurst, which sends the both of them into his little flaming arena, but then the Yuna user initiates her ExBurst. Yuna's ExBurst finishes and deposits them back into the main arena.

[benfen]

No idea on the first question, I didn't notice it my self. But if it ends without killing them then it just returns to the normal stage, so I guess that answers your question .-.

At 1:38.

/10char.

[Spiritreapr]

so can someone do a D. Chaos vs Chaos vid? also, how does he come into play, does chaos just transform into him on the brink of destruction or something or what

[cd125]

after seeing the videos posted earlier i really dont think im going to be able to unlock him =[

[absolclaw]

So we know now that D. Chaos' Ex Burst can be cancelled when the opponent uses their own Ex Burst.

What happens if you do this with two D. Chaos? :rolleyes:

[cd125]

So we know now that D. Chaos' Ex Burst can be cancelled when the opponent uses their own Ex Burst.

What happens if you do this with two D. Chaos? :rolleyes:

that sounds like a legitamite question. too bad i havent unlocked him or else i would find out

[Spiritreapr]

after seeing the videos posted earlier i really dont think im going to be able to unlock him =[

There r vids of unlocking him??

[cd125]

There r vids of unlocking him??

no this is the video someone made after unlocking him and fighting with him

[Fullmetal]

There r vids of unlocking him??

Considering how long the fight takes, I doubt it.

[DevilTrigger]

I'm working on it right now, gave up with my old team (and old equipment). Grinded a few people to 100, went to all the dungeons on the way and got TONS of lvl 100 equipment, and soon gonna try again

Edit: Just unlocked him (boy was it difficult). If you do all the dungeons along the way to Desperado's dungeon (the ones spanning from before the first fight against him to the last), in all of the red treasure chests are a lot of lvl 100 equipment that makes it MUCH more even (infact he may be lvl 130, but his gear is only for lvl 30's so he gets broken easily). In the end though, I ended up against him with Zidane as my 4th guy and used his.....that dragon ball like attack in the air that shoots projectiles, something 9. Desperado just kind of took most of the shots and NEVER approached me, I just waited till he got broken and then moved in for the HP attack. If you have a character with a multi hitting projectile, move on up to the top of EoM and start shooting those down, Desperado's AI had no answer for it at all and the fight became easy (albeit long).

[holy0crux]

Sounds like maybe it's Fulgur, which means lightning.

D'oh. I knew that. Like fulguration. XD

Um, is there a reason why EX Bursting during Desperado's EX Burst cancels D's Ex Burst...Like what Nero did to Kraid?

[Spiritreapr]

Does he still have 3 lives?

[DevilTrigger]

I'd assume using the one Ex Burst resets his own burst, like the game is saying since the one is over, the other must also be over. Might be a glitch, might not be, but it happens.

No, no lives or anything like that, just a health bar that takes FOREVER. If you play smart you can generally break him really easily though and get a safe attack on him. I discovered the Zidane thing half way through the fight (only because I was busy mastering that move), I imagine as long as you have a fast rapid fire projectile (preferably one that just keeps him grounded) will really mess up his AI, he literally could barely dodge an entire barrage, and never got close to where I was firing them from. It took a while, but against a lvl 130 130k super boss, I'll happily cheese a little of the fight =3

[Cookies]

He looks freaking broken as.

He reminds me somewhat of Kyuubi Naruto in NUNS 1 & 2.

[holy0crux]

Did anyone else see this sweet stuffs right here.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgugN1026p0&feature=channel_video_title

I don't think he's overpowered...just...excessively healthy. XD His HP shoulda been about the 60,000.

[DevilTrigger]

He looks freaking broken as.

He reminds me somewhat of Kyuubi Naruto in NUNS 1 & 2.

He's really not that broken, he has weak vertical game, outside EoM where his 3 moves (2 Brave attacks and the one HP laser attack), even there they aren't that difficult to dodge. His hitbox is indeed a lot bigger as well (considering that one Chaos HP attack that summons the flame pillars is a guranteed hit), so a lot of times, him guarding certain moves can lead to him getting hit anyway (if he gets staggered). His braves are very good and fast for the most part, but his HP moves are a little lacking. If anyone seems broken, it's Vaan

You know that fight is hacked right Holy, it isn't actually possible to get his HP that high or anywhere close to it lol

[cd125]

yea i think his hp is way too high when you fight him the 2nd time

[Cookies]

It's not hacked and it's not that hard to get their health that high. There's an accessory that raises your health by 50,000.

Also, his ex burst is ridiculous. If you can do it well then it easily beats any other ex burst for damage, plus he's surprisingly fast.

[DevilTrigger]

Ah, the vid description said something about the fight was hacked, guess that means the accessory was hacked in then

[Cookies]

That makes more sense.

[cd125]

i have that accesory! add my friend code to your mog web and fight my friend card and youll see

[TrainXIII]

What a beast o.O finally unlocked him.. After 18mins fighting him o.O but the only chara i had to use was cloud. There were no needa for a second chara since his moves are quite predictable :) god my heart xD

[DevilTrigger]

I'm having a real diffcult time deciding what abilities to put on him, I mean I even took off his ground guard to give him more CP room (since he has that very strong guard staggering move, and if I need to guard I can just hop into the air fast and guard), but it seems that you'll only be able to have 4 brave moves, 2 HP moves, and a handicap remover and the very basics (I wish they didnt take 25CP at mastered for things like dodging and guarding...)

[cd125]

im still on the road to unlocking him =/

[Feonax]

I wish they didnt take 25CP at mastered for things like dodging and guarding...

ARE YOU SERIOUS? BULLS*IT. Like he wasn't handicapped enough.

Hey, anyone else gotten horrible lag in load times here since 2 days ago? I'm getting lots of 500 Gateway Errors too.

[Eferthad]

OOH, FOUND TWO MORE!

Cuo Vandia, the one where he swipes and rises upwards...

FURAGORU Maximus. I have NO idea. "Fragol, Furagol, Flagor, Fulagor, Flagol, Fulagol, Furagolu, Furagoru, Fulagolu, Fulagoru." Do ANY of those words mean anything?


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Are there any attacks you CAN block...?

Fragor maximus? Fragor means din. So... Din maximum?

The other one seems strange. It doesn't even seem latin...

[DevilTrigger]

Is there a complete list of all his move names? If anyone needs to see it, I can attempt to take a picture of all his unique abilities he has and someone can translate them if we're missing any

[Daedry]

Hey, anyone else gotten horrible lag in load times here since 2 days ago? I'm getting lots of 500 Gateway Errors too.

yeah i got the same error over and over since 2 days, it takes me a couple of minutes to load a page.

as for D.chaos, if there still is an accessory that gives more CP, i think it'll be a most, without that it'll be really predictable

[DevilTrigger]

If it's allowed. If Desperado got special treatment for his CP, everyone else would have to be allowed to boost there CP limit as well, which I doubt will happen.

I took menu photos and stuff in the other thread btw if you want to see

[Daedry]

well it wouldn't be a special treatment,
in DFF there was an accessory that was raising the max CP, if it stills exists, every character would be able to have it, it just would be a must have for D.Chaos.

[DevilTrigger]

If the ruleset you're using allows it, then by all means it really is a must to get more versitility out of him. That's his major problem, he has the moveset to control every kind of stage (well almost) but never at once, you must plan far ahead with him, depending of who you're fighting and what stage he's on.

[Arphesol]

Wow; he looks even harder than the original chaos. Lol imagine fighting Desperado three times.