Booster 8. How can people not use this move?

[Kirin]

i use a tempest from above *BLOCK* punish....
OK maybe swift attack....*BLOCK* nope sorry....
umm i know i'll use vortex thats quite hard to....*BLOCK* fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu----

resorts to spamming hp attacks until his inevitable defeat comes to past

BUT no more!! booster 8 has come to the rescue!!

which brings me to my question how can people not use this move the developers put it there for a reason! feel free to share your experiences with this move (^_^)

[Kurayami]

People do use it, but they don't spam it. It's pretty easy to punish.

[Alice]

i use a tempest from above *BLOCK* punish....
OK maybe swift attack....*BLOCK* nope sorry....
umm i know i'll use vortex thats quite hard to....*BLOCK* fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu----

resorts to spamming hp attacks until his inevitable defeat comes to past

BUT no more!! booster 8 has come to the rescue!!

which brings me to my question how can people not use this move the developers put it there for a reason! feel free to share your experiences with this move (^_^)

- rep for this <3 luv it

B8 is good but all of the time you're in the air.That's why you didn't see it in some match but people still equip it

[Zero_Ruzai]

Good against ground characters like Firion. Swift attack is pretty hard to block.If the opponent dashes at you, you can try to block swift attack, but what if they don't use it? Then they can just punish the block with more damage. It's elementary to think you can block everything Zidane throws. Leads to losing very fast.

[ArgyleNinja]

Booster 8 is good setup for Zidane's air game. I personally have it set as my neutral O for easy combo access. A preferred method of mine is Booster 8 to that one rising attack Zidane has.

[Pifreak]

Booster 8 is pretty slow. 4/5 of the time when I use it randomly, it doesn't hit. :|

And what does he say when using it? I hear "stinks, huh?"

[axeeeeL]

it's not really supposed to hit that often, and it probably wont against any good players. you have to abuse landing lag and unpredictability to land it.

and he says, "stings, huh?"

[Shadestar]

Booster 8 is a situational attack. The situation? your on the ground. that's it really, and considering it's a ground to air attack, I'm not ganna stop what I'm doing just to land back on the ground and use it again when all his aerial attacks are just as effective.

You joke about all your SA', tempest and vortex's getting blocked, but what about all your Booster 8's getting dodged? :P

Playing Zidane on the ground is just bad news. Booster 8, I think, is just another tool to get him off the ground. With pretty combo opportunities.

[Kirin]

booster 8 is basically a combo starter for those ppl that stay on the ground thats the only reason it staggers so that if the do block it yo have a chance to attack the staggered person for a chained combo

[Zero_Ruzai]

Sorry bruhthuh (Kirin) but if you think Booster 8 is totally changing his performance, then you're sadly mistaken.
I don't know if you're good with Zidane or not, but this isn't a groundbreaking move, considering Zidane is in the air 95% of the time anyway.

[Zero_Ruzai]

We should probably not turn this into a rant thread and just try to stay on topic. But really, it'd be nice if we actually had videos to back up the claim of whether or not Booster 8 is worth it or not. So far, I have yet to see any clear justification.

[Kirin]

srry i was out of line he just pisses me off so much

[Kirin]

the main problem i have with this move is that it can fall short quite easily and the frames between the ending of the move and recovery back into the normal fighting stance is substantial enough to be punished smoothly

[Thiefcopy]

Like has been said, do you have a video of it being put to good use? I'm curious now because I've generally ignored it.

[Kirin]

hmm and can try and record an online match , but for now i dont bottom line it links to aerial combos extremely well

[Thiefcopy]

Alrighty, and yeah, an online video would be the best showcase for it, cause you can beat the AI with anything :P

[Aevitas]

No more fighting please, or I will be forced to hand out infractions. :P Keep it civil guys, there is more than one way to play a character, you know. Respect each other's styles, and maybe you'll learn something yourself.

Personally, I like Booster-8 (and the fact that it staggers), but I also know that I have to pick the right moment to use it. For example, if the opponent seems to make a habit of blocking and staying on the ground, it's a good way to throw them off and get them into the air. It just makes Zidane's game a little less predictable, even if by a little.

[ArgyleNinja]

A fave combo of mine is as follows, especially when the opponent is low on Brv.

Booster 8>>Swift Attack>>Meo Twister.

If Booster 8 didn't Break the opponent, then Swift Attack did.

[Zero_Ruzai]

I think that's what most people use that for lol. Booster 8>Swift Attack is a quick HP link that works well, whereas if you're going for the BRV killer, Booster 8>Vortex seems pretty solid. The only problem I've seen with the move so far is that it's ground exclusive, and since I hardly touch ground, save the first half second of the battle, I never get much of a chance to move it.
I have to say though, this is a great move against some ground tanks like Firion.

[ArgyleNinja]

And Garland. And Gilgy. And Exdeath. And Gabranth. Actually, any slow ground character would be easily rapeable with this move. I should know. Just for kicks, I put a single Zidane against Garland, Firion, Golbez, Gilgy, and Exdeath (Tournament mode, of course). Let's just say...Dayum.

[Shadestar]

Thought I'd also point out that Booster 8 is AWESOME for assist combo's. Specifically assists that wall rush downwards (eg. Cecil assist). This is the only other reason outside of dealing with block-happy ground opponents that I have Booster 8 equipped.
Something like Booster8->Vortex (wall rush)-> Cecil assist->Booster 8-> SA or Tempest-> Meotwister= Braverape and win.
But booster 8 is certaintly not something to be spammed.

[mykel_0717]

dodge attacking. you can use it like prishe's and tidus' attacks. dodge backwards, then use booster 8. owns the AI every time. also, since mid-air dodging doesn't reset jumps any more, you'll be more likely to spend a fair amount of time in the ground, which is another reason to equip this move.

[JaeZanar]

a good tactic against the AI is to do Tidal Flame, wait for them to dodge, then punish them with booster 8 and SHAZAM! your choice between his different bravery attacks or Free energy :D

it could maybe work against a person, but idk <.<

[Alice]

a good tactic against the AI is to do Tidal Flame, wait for them to dodge, then punish them with booster 8 and SHAZAM! your choice between his different bravery attacks or Free energy :D

it could maybe work against a person, but idk <.<

no it won't,why dodge when i'll just jump 2 times to the air and spam assist

[JaeZanar]

no it won't,why dodge when i'll just jump 2 times to the air and spam assist

ok if youre talking about a person then yeah probably not but the CPU doesnt do that.

[MajinKuja]

as people are saying zidane will spend 95% of the time in the air, booster 8 is for use during that 5% when you arent. yeh you can just jump back into the air and continue your assault but why not run toward them and use booster 8? in the right situation you can link it to any of his ariel attacks, usually swift attack or tempest for me. depending on which stage im on i usually use booster 8 as my opening attack, as its the only ground move i have equipped besides stellar circle.

[Alice]

as people are saying zidane will spend 95% of the time in the air, booster 8 is for use during that 5% when you arent. yeh you can just jump back into the air and continue your assault but why not run toward them and use booster 8? in the right situation you can link it to any of his ariel attacks, usually swift attack or tempest for me. depending on which stage im on i usually use booster 8 as my opening attack, as its the only ground move i have equipped besides stellar circle.

so you use B8 and SC5 for ground move ? nice

[Spike]

B8 is a great ground move but not to be used so much as zidane is still the 'aerial ace' so most of his game is still on the air. B8 is for the rare times that you will be battling on ground.

[WateryMind]

Booster 8 is a funny move. Its one of those moves that would be awesome if it wasn't for the character its for.

To me, the first thing you should be doing in a match as Zidane is either jumping or Air Dashing. However, there are times where jumping/ dashing is a terrible idea (Sky Fortress Bahamut Omega >_>) and you're forced to do battle on the ground. At these times, Booster 8 is pretty good. It hurts hard, it staggers guards, and it chains to all of his aerial moves. But, if you miss, may as well get ready to get beaten around for a while. To me, B8 is a punishing move or a move to use after a block.

However, one thing I do have issue with is that the only moves that consistently hit (for me) are SA, Storm Impulse, Grand Lethal and Free Energy. Tempest can just fly straight under them, and Vortex just misses completely. The hell? >.>

[Spike]

use B8->tempest when you have proper footing and if the B8 tracking didn't go up (you slightly get elevated if the opponent is slightly above ground, that's why tempest someimes misses). Vortex I don't know since I use only SI for massive damage. The slight elevation might have something to do with it.

[EULNAV93]

I'm not sure how well it would work against human opponents, but Booster 8-> Swift Attack-> Vortex-> Assist-> Swift Attack-> Meo Twister has been the combo I use most with Zidane.

The way I see it is that Square Enix tried to boost Zidane's ground performace by replacing the ground version of Swift Attack with Booster 8. It wasn't very successful though seeing as Swift Attack was much more useful than Booster 8, in my own opinion, due to the fact that Swift Attack was much faster and also had a branching HP attack.

[ChaosMuramasa]

I'm not sure how well it would work against human opponents, but Booster 8-> Swift Attack-> Vortex-> Assist-> Swift Attack-> Meo Twister has been the combo I use most with Zidane.

That wouldn't work against a human opponent ever. Swift Attack can't go into Vortex.

[EULNAV93]

That wouldn't work against a human opponent ever. Swift Attack can't go into Vortex.

True enough, I don't have experience with human opponents, only AI. It's similar to Cloud's Climhazzard-> Slashing Blow combo in which there needs to be exact timing. It's not perfect, but then again what combo is?

[LonelyGaruga]

Climhazzard > Slashing Blow is a combo that works on people. It requires 1f precision, but it works. I've honestly never heard of Swift Attack > Vortex, ever. How does this "work"? Do you DC after the first part? Finish the attack, DC under the opponent, then Vortex? Could you provide a video for a visual example? If you've actually found a new combo, that would be interesting to see (not that I believe that it works, but hey, better to be positive and disappointed than to be negative and proven wrong).

[EULNAV93]

Climhazzard > Slashing Blow is a combo that works on people. It requires 1f precision, but it works. I've honestly never heard of Swift Attack > Vortex, ever. How does this "work"? Do you DC after the first part? Finish the attack, DC under the opponent, then Vortex? Could you provide a video for a visual example? If you've actually found a new combo, that would be interesting to see (not that I believe that it works, but hey, better to be positive and disappointed than to be negative and proven wrong).

I would make a video of it myself, but I don't have anything to make videos with at the moment. If you were to try Dodge Cancelling the opponent would recover before you could use Vortex. Swift Attack and then right after the second slash ends and you start to fall use Vortex. If you try using Vortex too early you'll just continue the Swift Attack's combo. Too late and you'll miss with Vortex.

[DZXtreme]

You know the thing about zidanes other attacks is their alot faster than others so there not gonna be blocked all the time. About 80 percent of every fight is in the air anyway especially if the level is places like crystal world or planets core. Dont get me wrong B8 is a good new addition to his moveset that has alot of good qualities about it but dont go depending on it so much since zidane is a air figher (airgo unmatches in air combat status) So if your attacks are being blocked you just need to find a way to use them at better times.

[Kirin]

http://dissidiaforums.com/showthread.php?10584-The-ThunderClap-is-here-Kirin-s-replays.&highlight=thunderclap

Old thread.When 012 just came out.

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You know the thing about zidanes other attacks is their alot faster than others so there not gonna be blocked all the time. About 80 percent of every fight is in the air anyway especially if the level is places like crystal world or planets core. Dont get me wrong B8 is a good new addition to his moveset that has alot of good qualities about it but dont go depending on it so much since zidane is a air figher (airgo unmatches in air combat status) So if your attacks are being blocked you just need to find a way to use them at better times.

EDIT: people neg repping me saying, how is this nothing to do with the thread.
I was showing him that I already know how to time my attacks properly.Get it? It was a reply to the previous poster.

There are some retards on this forum man.

[Avilice]

It's easy to punish, it has a pretty short range too. But when timed right it can be handy :)