I think Garland's probably mid-tier. Although he lost his DC combos, Thundaga and Flare are very good additions to his game, and make him more viable to play as in the air. He's more of a rushdown character on the ground, with his unblockable BRV attacks and quick pokes, and more of a punishing character in the air. I don't think he's good enough to be mid high though. Then again, i'm not exactly a good player, so my opinion doesn't count for much.
Short version: I suggest we make one tier list for Off. (Skill) and one tier list for Official. They may not change much in the end, but there may be some matchups that can be made easier just through the use of a specific build. As mentioned before, Assist builds for characters who suffer from an inability to build assist, a specific build to help with "punishing" a low cooldown, spammable attack (BRV+% on dodge against Shadow Flare), etc.
I do like the sound of that, but it'd probably take twice as long as the old DFF tier list did, seeing as how we would need separate Off. (Skill) tournaments for accurate matchup data.
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It would most likely be better in the long run. I get the feeling some tournaments in the future may run Official AND Off (Skill) to see how much equipment affects the meta (which is a lot).
We hardly ever have Off.(Skill) tourneys (apart from RoM, but that was only for Europe). I think we should just do Official. No need to over-complicate things.
But if they DO come up every now and then, wouldn't it be nice to have it for later? Besides, it makes a nice starting point instead of throwing everything into the fire at once and hoping for the best.
Garland's got it goin' on!
@Khell: I dunno. I see where you're coming from, but... I don't really see the point in using Off.(Skill) as the base for an Official tier list. As you said, equipment and accessories can change matchups, so it's kind of redundant to start off with Off.(Skill) when the Official tier list will be different anyways. Plus we probably won't end up having many Off.(Skill) tournaments. I think it just over-complicates things.
Sure, it's good to think of the matchups without equipment and then factor the equipment in, but I don't think it warrants its own tier list. That's basically what i'm trying to say.
@Shmeckie: Well, when you put it like that, it makes him seem awesome xD My only worry is whether his buffs are enough for him to keep up with the likes of Kuja.
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Plus, it's been established Off. (Skill) isn't as fair as once thought.
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I totally agree with what you're saying, Lord Shmeckie. While assist builds are very annoying, I love punishing it with being able to snag EXmode (and it goes faster if they have no absorption at all) with some of the better Exmodes. I love using Kefka and Terra's EX's for sure.
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