How to deal with assist campers

[CosmicJR13]

Ok, we all know how Assist can punish Golbez no matter what he does, all of his attacks can be easily assist punished. What's worse is when other people take advantage of this by assist camping in the ceiling. Characters like Cloud can just go to the top of the stage and spam double cut until his assist bar is full, by the time you're up there, he has enough assist to punish any move you try to hit him with. Staying on the ground TRYING to build assist is a bad idea unless you have Ground dash and assist gauge up dash. There's little Golbez can do.

So, what can we do to counteract this or at least defend our poor Warlock?, he has no assist building options, going after the opponent is a very tricky option because of the advantage the opponent will have over Golbez, Ground dash and assist gauge up dash is an option, but a viable one?

Discuss please!

[kewldude475]

Ahaha, you're trying to find a way around my scrub tactic for fighting Golbez. I was just kinda trolling. You would have done much better if you had stayed on the ground.I also would have recommended that you not use any asist punishable attacks, unless you yourself have two bars of assist. Glare hand would likely be your friend, as one would think it would be hard to assist punish. While yur opponent is in the air camping, grab all the EX cores (if you ae on a stage like orders, World of darkness and whatnot and just wait until you have Full EX. You would do alot better if you had stayed on the ground, that is crucial, as all of Golbez's air attacks can be assist punished. You could also try to use Black Fang to lure them to you. unfortunately, i'm not a Golbez player so maybe someone who's good with golbez can help you, like Khellendros. Or maybe someone can correct me if i'm giving bad advice here. Though I do think that you should mostly be on the ground with Golbez.

EDIT: punishing a dodge with assists could work too, while they're whiffing and dodging.

[Accention]

I wouldnt think that using assist gauge up dash would work it doesnt award much to the guage If i remember right i think it gives just enouph to keep it stagnant like Gabranths Ex charge

Im no Golbez expert and this is kinda a theory but would concentration work? I would think that would be a good way to lure them out seeing how no one wants their opponet getting free brave.If they wanna stop you their going to have to do somthing to get you to move.

just my 2 cents

[kewldude475]

I wouldnt think that using assist gauge up dash would work it doesnt award much to the guage If i remember right i think it gives just enouph to keep it stagnant like Gabranths Ex charge

Im no Golbez expert and this is kinda a theory but would concentration work? I would think that would be a good way to lure them out seeing how no one wants their opponet getting free brave.If they wanna stop you their going to have to do somthing to get you to move.

just my 2 cents

*facepalm* Why didn't I think of that? XD I don't see a reason why it wouldn't work. Especially against cloud. if someone has a long range aerial attack, that may not work though, but his theory sounds like it could work.

[Shuruka]

*facepalm* Why didn't I think of that? XD I don't see a reason why it wouldn't work. Especially against cloud. if someone has a long range aerial attack, that may not work though, but his theory sounds like it could work.

the problom with it actually is SnL will cancel out concentration, AND once they catch on they'll just use it to their advantage

[Accention]

the problom with it actually is SnL will cancel out concentration, AND once they catch on they'll just use it to their advantage

Not really SnL drops yout brave by lower amounts than concentration gives you so it could still work...possibly

[kewldude475]

the problom with it actually is SnL will cancel out concentration, AND once they catch on they'll just use it to their advantage

Actually, Concentration++ gives 300 bravery I believe. SnL only takes away 200. Should work with Concentration++

EDIT: Whoever -reped me saying "no one likes you gtfo" needs to just stop.

[CosmicJR13]

Oh Kewl, lol

I've always been worried about this problem, but you reminded me about it, so I wanted to see if someone has solved this dilemma XD.

I mean, this IS a real problem for Golbez. We need to know a way around it.

Concentration Could work to lure him, not everyone has SnL, BUT the problem is, once he's down there, he can still assist punish your attempt at attacking. Or You can punish his dodges, if you have assist, that is.

[Shuruka]

well, regardless of that fact, it also depends on the assist campers charecter, some charecters you have to be very far away from for it to work effectively, charecters like cloud of darkness can use Long range particle beam to force a dodge, and others like squall can halo camp with fire barret. its situational to say the least, because you have to be completely still to do it.

[kewldude475]

Even if they did have SnL, Concentration++ should cancel it out (as I tested, it gives 300+ bravery, if I learned how to count correctly)
and should still give you bravery. Then when they come to you, maybe Glare Hand could work, as is is less Assist punishable tan his other attacks.

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well, regardless of that fact, it also depends on the assist campers charecter, some charecters you have to be very far away from for it to work effectively, charecters like cloud of darkness can use Long range particle beam to force a dodge, and others like squall can halo camp with fire barret. its situational to say the least, because you have to be completely still to do it.

Not many people use CoD assist, and if they did, it would drain their assist guage, (if they used Fulliside particle Beam) possibly giving you an opportunity to attack, or even lock their assist.

EDIT: Not only that, CoD asist startup is so slow, they they can dodge, and lock your assist. Jecht assist is far batter at punishing Golbez's moves.