Team Wars Feedback & Suggestion Thread

[Kurayami]

My only concern is that by severely limiting the most popular option in Team Wars, you may damage the activity of teams, causing teams to become less active and thus gimping team wars.

[LXD92]

make 1v1 a 2x limit per week with less point reward like Chaos said. 1v1 is not very hard to arrange and it can help team with the 1 challange per week rule but like everyone else are saying, Team Wars is about Teams that get points not individuals.

[LonelyGaruga]

I think the amount of 1v1's taking place are a bit much for Team Wars. However, I don't think it should be limited as much as Chaos and LxFate have said. There SHOULD be a limitation though. Maybe once per week. That leaves four other challenges dedicated to group battles.

If any limitation is placed, I think this would be the one to go for. I already planned to limit myself to a single 1v1 per week, and with that limitation, it would be just a matter of asking around the team to see if it would be OK to take the 1v1 for the person planning to do so. If it involves the entire team's consent, it's also a way to make it a team endeavor, as even the 1v1s need responses from the team.

EDIT: LxD's idea works fine too.

[Veysey]

I was thinking a lot of the same, Chaos. Although I don't think 1v1 challenges are really all that bad (and may even open up some more options for Mercs). If anything, I think the points should be further reduced and the limit raised per team. Something like each player can participate in 1 1v1 per cycle (tournaments ending a cycle). Meaning if you got called out or called someone out previously, no one else can call you out as well as you calling anyone else out until post-tournament and the new cycle begins.

I'd also suggest a max point payout of 3 - you heard me - 3 points for a FT10; 2 for 5, 1 for 3. No points for individual wins (if I understand the rules/formulas right XD). You can use those numbers for "best of" as well - but 3 is the cap. Moreover, it should be limited to nothing lower than needing 3 wins (that means best of 5/FT3 - whatever your poison is :P is This means you're doing 1v1 basically to put on a show (or in a Mercs case, establish their prestige - no pun intended to those on that team :P). It just adds a small dynamic that everyone can participate with without REALLY effecting the point structure and concept of team wars.


As for the idea of a league - the big problem is every time we do something like that, it starts off strong but then feelings get hurt, people get salty, or interest is lost and it falls apart. I DO like the idea of a league, though and I've got a few ideas that may make it a mainstay on the forums depending. Give it some time - you might see something that would kill the need for 1v1 in Team Wars.

[Stevie]

1vs1 is good, but this is team wars, and I think there should be a limit on the number of 1vs1 challenges that a team can place in one week, i personally think that a limit of 2 (like what LXD Said) would be good, also a good idea for people that do want to play solo is to create a leauge, with regular meetings for solo challengwes maybe, I did say this before and it something that could be fun as well

[Blaze]

I've been doing 1v1s because in all honesty, anything more has been relatively difficult to actually plan. Just look at my own team's 2v2 challenge from Prestige, which has been delayed over a week because nobody on my team can, or is willing, to make it. And yet I got my 1v1 challenge in just fine, with the only delay being actually setting a time for it. Removing or limiting 1v1s seems like it would cause more harm than good to me, as it can prevent teams from actually completing the 1 challenge minimum, if circumstances are particularly unfavorable, and it hinders the number of challenges that can be made. I don't see what the concern about 1v1 challenges is, as every team has made efforts to make challenges with multiple people involved. Blaze was just discussing the possibility of doing 2 3v3s later on this week, and I'm confident that no other team has failed to make plans in the future for this.

This most definitely. The only reason I do 1v1s (which I don't always do) is because my teams schedule don't work well with mine more or less event in 2v2. Also my opponents would normally have a hard time getting at least one person together. Like the other night I had to postpone my challenge to the next day only to have my challenge changed from a Ft10 to a FT5 because my opponents teammate had to go during the challenge. I don't mind doing 2v2 and more sometimes but considering i go to school and work 2v2s and up is harder to do. Getting rid of 1v1s is a horrible idea. Limiting it to 2 seems fair. I just think it should of been made clearer before.

Like garuga said no one had problems with 1v1s as far as ONLY doing them so I don't see an issue with it. Ive been in plenty of 2v2s and up but not as much as 1v1 because my time doesn't always fit with everyone else's time so I need 1v1s in order to still be active in the wars when I can't make it to a group. Anyway like I said getting rid of 1v1s should not even be an option

[ChaosMuramasa]

Well, I'd like to believe that if you're aiming to participate in Team Wars, you would have the freedom in your schedule for it. I just don't understand why someone would join a team or seek involvement in Team Wars if they don't have the time to join their friends in actual group events. Why participate if your only completely assured participation is 1v1 challenges while 2v2 or more is only a "maybe?"

I'd prefer if no one takes offense to that as I sincerely don't mean any, but I have to question that kind of thing.

[Veysey]

Besides that, I think the mercenary system fits those of us with scheduling difficulties much more efficiently at the moment.

[Terrina]

Well, I'd like to believe that if you're aiming to participate in Team Wars, you would have the freedom in your schedule for it. I just don't understand why someone would join a team or seek involvement in Team Wars if they don't have the time to join their friends in actual group events. Why participate if your only completely assured participation is 1v1 challenges while 2v2 or more is only a "maybe?"

I'd prefer if no one takes offense to that as I sincerely don't mean any, but I have to question that kind of thing.

Now that's not fair chaos. Take it from someone who basically had no choice to 1v1 since I didn't have my own psp for a while, 1v1 is a necessary option for those who CAN'T do more. I mean blaze among others did plenty of 2v2 and up. Just because he does slightly more 1v1s doesn't mean he's not dedicated to events with his team. Like garuga said blaze made an effort the other day to do team challenges with his teammates and wanted to do a 1v1 today with me since he wasn't home to do challenges with anyone else. The effort for more challenges was made and that's what really matters. Now I agree 1v1 should be limited but not eliminated from the wars. He didnt enter a team just for 1v1s and his participation in groups against your team, my team and the forsaken is proof of that.
I don't see how 1v1s were an issue considering each team done a fair share of 2v2s and up so things seem just fine. If you want to limit 1v1 fine. Sometimes 1v1s are neccessary for situations like schedule problems or just sudden IRL stuff. It happens. No need to ban a option because it isn't a "team" event. Matter of fact your representing your team in 1v1s fighting a different member of a team so its in the same concept.

I think the points is fine the way it is and the rules are solid. The only thing that I feel should change is a limit on 1v1s to 2x a week made by different members of a team. As for the ft20 it should of been mentioned in the rules whether or not the mods thought it was assumed that wouldn't be an option or not.

[ChaosMuramasa]

Now that's not fair chaos. Take it from someone who basically had no choice to 1v1 since I didn't have my own psp for a while, 1v1 is a necessary option for those who CAN'T do more.

That's exactly what I'm saying. If you are incapable of doing anything but 1v1 due to either physical complications or schedule-related issues, then as Veysey said, you're probably better off as a Mercenary who can work on their own terms and times.

I mean blaze among others did plenty of 2v2 and up. Just because he does slightly more 1v1s doesn't mean he's not dedicated to events with his team.

Never said that he wasn't.

Like garuga said blaze made an effort the other day to do team challenges with his teammates and wanted to do a 1v1 today with me since he wasn't home to do challenges with anyone else.

I already understand that completely.

He didnt enter a team just for 1v1s and his participation in groups against your team, my team and the forsaken is proof of that.

I know he's in it for more than just 1v1s. When I speak of the issues behind 1v1s, I'm speaking in a general sense. I never meant to put a direct attack on Blaze. While he has admittedly done far more solo 1v1 acts than any other participant thus far, this discussion is just a general discussion. It's not a "Let's limit 1v1s because Blaze is doing too many of them." It's a "Let's limit 1v1s because that's not in the spirit of Team Wars."

None of this was ever an attack against Blaze, either from myself or anyone else. We all just want 1v1s limited and less rewarding.

I don't see how 1v1s were an issue considering each team done a fair share of 2v2s and up so things seem just fine. If you want to limit 1v1 fine.

The issue is that they're popping up more and more as of late, which is going against what was originally planned. 1v1s were first considered a side-show type of thing in Team Wars, but as the last two months have developed, they've slowly become main events, which is not what anyone intended.

Sometimes 1v1s are neccessary for situations like schedule problems or just sudden IRL stuff. It happens.

If a 2v2 or 3v3 goes wrong due to real life scheduling issues, you don't need to shrink it to 1v1 for the simple sake of just doing the challenge. You can always reschedule to another date in which everyone is available.

No need to ban a option because it isn't a "team" event. Matter of fact your representing your team in 1v1s fighting a different member of a team so its in the same concept.

It's not exactly the same concept because you're by yourself. The idea is to fight with your team as one to overcome your enemies.

Anywho, I highly doubt 1v1 will be outright removed. Just severely limited in some way, shape, or form.

I think the points is fine the way it is and the rules are solid.

The scoring is what's off. Khell and I have been planning to increase the points given through 2v2/3v3/4v4 challenges and decreasing the points given through 1v1. Currently, you can get more points from a 1v1 FT10 than a 2v2 FT10. That's not exactly right and it was a mishap on our part for creating it like that in the first place. We'll be revamping scoring for the second season so that it benefits actual group challenges.

The only thing that I feel should change is a limit on 1v1s to 2x a week made by different members of a team.

Personally, I feel that it should probably be once a week. That way, if your team hasn't been able to make the necessary one challenge a week, you can bust out an 1v1 challenge against someone real fast to get your team's quota in. If we really allow two 1v1 challenges a week, I'd like to imagine that we should enforce that they be of different totals. As in, you can't do 2 1v1 FT10s. 1 FT10 and then 1 FT3 or FT5. I think that would be reasonable.

As for the ft20 it should of been mentioned in the rules whether or not the mods thought it was assumed that wouldn't be an option or not.

We understand that and we apologize for the lack of clarification. We only realized it recently and haven't had the chance yet to implement it in the rulebook (Khell has had an incredibly busy weekend).