Heartless angel black materia are both easy to prevent (You can interrupt HA with reverse polarity and you can All block all forms of Black materia or avoid it or interrupt it.Originally Posted by K´Genesis
As for Ultimecia, Time crush is harder to stop than HA but you can still do it and Charged knights axe is ridiculously easy to block, and if she's initiating other attacks then you can still avoid it and block those.
Other than Apocalypse, (Which can be interrupted by RP) her HP attacks are fairly easy block (They're very linear).
Those aren't "main reasons" because you can easily get around them.
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Guilt can be high blocked but innocence can't be blocked at all. I really have no clue about the Gabranth match-up because I haven't played against a good one.
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and obviously he can just take his time to camp and charge.
i thought the explosion part of guilt couldnt be all guarded? and aerial innocence can be guarded if you counter with almagest quick enough.
and yeah rp pretty much destroys apocalypse >.>
I do have to ask...
Have you played any Ultimecias online at all?
Time Crush takes merely 4 secs to be casted and Ultimecia can move during its cast. RP will never interrupt a well-positioned TC and Ulty will never cast it close to Exdeath. In fact, RP will only shorten the distance Ulty has to travel for a free HP hit afterwards.
As for charged Knight´s Axe, try avoiding it after charged Knight´s Arrows advance while normal Knight´s Arrows rain down on you. I´d like to see that.
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I was referring to the non-explosive part of guilt.
I don't know much about innocence since I just try to dodge and punish it with RP (From what I've heard you can't all-guard-Almagest) I'll test that...
Again, I haven't played any good gabranth players.
Exdeath can keep him busy with Reverse Polarity, but personally I wouldn't care if you hit me with it unless I have very low brave, it deals very little damage. Plus it knocks me away on hit, so I can continue charging.
I'm not sure, but I think Hatred can break through Omni Block as well. Even if it doesn't, Hatred can be held, so you can bait the block.
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so gabranth > exdeath? what are exdeath's options against gabranth
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An Exdeath player worth is salt is likely going to counter raining Knight's Arrows, with the situation dictating which counter to use. As for Time Crush, Exdeath shouldn't be letting Ultimecia get far enough away anyway, since he's gonna want to stay close enough to counter her attacks. And if he has full EX, it doesn't even matter, since going into EX Mode causes you to escape Time Crush if you are frozen.
Gabranth isn't as bad for Exdeath as he's made out to be. As long as you're not experiencing alot of lag, you shouldn't have too much trouble. Innocence is easy to punish: dash toward Gabranth, passing by him so he fires the slashes away from you, then Delta Attack him while he's occupied. With aerial Innocence, you can also dash away and use Grand Cross, but you have to activate it before or during the first slash of the attack, otherwise the attack will end and he'll be able to dodge before Grand Cross grabs them. A little more strict, but in some situations, more practical. If you can react quickly enough, though, it's not hard. Just make sure, whichever one you do, you start dashing when you hear his audio cue ("destruction" or "your life ends here").
Hatred is easy to Omni Block, even moreso if the Gabranth player holds it (because then Exdeath can hold his Omni Guard). Gabranth has an audio cue when he releases the attack, so the Exdeath player can just let Omni Block go when he hears it.
Exdeath should have no trouble with Sephiroth's Black Materia, though, and even if he does get hit by Heartless Angel, he can get his brave back with another counter, which Sephy will give him lots of opportunities for.
I have played Ultimecia Ad-hoc, yes
(Not a dedicated main but a good player).
A good Exdeath won't keep his distance from an Ultimecia with a full Ex bar. Besides, most people go Exmode to block HP attacks and you won't be in position to Time crush during any of his hp attacks. 4 secs is a lot longer than it sounds. And if she somehow does get a TC out so what? 1 HP attack after all that trouble.
Dodging that combination is simple, dodge to avoid the axe and then hold the high guard out, it's simple really. That whole situation is easily avoidable (Not to mention useless in some levels) because a good Exdeath will be in Ultimecia's face by the time she gets her second attack out. RP is key since you can guard as you appear.
RP is probably her biggest threat since she can't really punish it and it interrupts many of her attacks. Exdeath can guard/doge and counter anything she throws at him while she can't respond to a simple teleportation attack.
Yeah, I think so.
If you guys want a good video of the match-up, here, from your tournament:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Dissidia.../0/_cGLya5WdGA
His options? I guess he can try to delay Gabranth from getting into EX Mode with RP, and hope the Gabranth player is stupid enough to use a non-EX attack.
Once he's in EX Mode, you can try to block his brave attacks, but then you might fall victim to Hatred if he guesses Exdeath'll try to block. Dual Rend is just too fast to be blocked on reaction (without too much lag). Also as Shmeckie said, you don't need to block Innocence to punish it.
i saw that vid ^-^
he does do well, yeah
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