Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep : Volume Two Speculations!

[Renteka-bond]

I hope the Organization as a whole (or at least 9-12) are expanded upon more thoroughly, because 358 sucked at that (Essentially, everyone in the Org is a dick accept Luxord and demyx is all I gained from that game). I'm pretty sure Darker is guaranteed, simply because of the location.

Oh, and the most important: Either Aqua gets a new VA, or Willa actually puts some effort into it.

[Meroki]

I think the game's almost definitely focusing on Aqua traveling through the World of Darkness, probably ending when she meets Ansem the Wise at the Dark Meridian or somewhere in that general area. I'd assume that she's going to travel through the worlds that were consumed by darkness prior to KHI. Probably also gonna tie into KHIII and maybe Dream Derp Dictionary, probably regarding how Sora is supposed to be saving everyone.

I was okay with Aqua's VA actually. But c'mon Square, show us the rest of the Organization's backstory (and maybe give us a proper Final Fantasy world now?).

[Scott]

If there was an FF world, you could guarantee it'd be the FF7 world. Hahah. Admittedly, it would be pretty awesome.

[SoulOfTheSky]

Theres no point in having a Final Fantasy world. Its not a final fantasy game. Its Kingdom Hearts. The FF characters are in there, Is that not good enough for you? Besides. Radiant Garden is basically a Final Fantasy World, Just with a few disney chars mixed in.

I Would like to see these Characters in this game
Sora, Riku, Kairi, Mickey, Aqua, Org XIII Members and the Reason as to why Ven's Body dissapeared after Roxas was born.

[Firestorm]

I hope the Organization as a whole (or at least 9-12) are expanded upon more thoroughly, because 358 sucked at that (Essentially, everyone in the Org is a dick accept Luxord and demyx is all I gained from that game). I'm pretty sure Darker is guaranteed, simply because of the location.

Oh, and the most important: Either Aqua gets a new VA, or Willa actually puts some effort into it.

What's with all the hating on the voice actors from BBS, I prefered the voice actors in BBS to in KH1/2 tbh.....

[Scott]

Theres no point in having a Final Fantasy world. Its not a final fantasy game. Its Kingdom Hearts. The FF characters are in there, Is that not good enough for you? Besides. Radiant Garden is basically a Final Fantasy World, Just with a few disney chars mixed in.

I Would like to see these Characters in this game
Sora, Riku, Kairi, Mickey, Aqua, Org XIII Members and the Reason as to why Ven's Body dissapeared after Roxas was born.

There is a point in having a Final Fantasy world, especially when it'd be so different and interesting for the series. The characters basically came from their original worlds. Just because they've only had Disney and Original worlds doesn't mean they couldn't include a Final Fantasy one. Sure, it's "not a Final Fantasy game" in the strictest sense, yet the mere inclusion of Final Fantasy characters more than warrants the inclusion of a Final Fantasy world at any point, if you ask me.

Also sort of funny about how you completely ignored or disregarded my post about your Roxas = Ven theory.

There's a few things about it though.

We know Ven can't make a Heartless because he has no darkness in his heart, which would normally mean he can't create a Nobody either, however, if you see Kairi, as a Princess of Heart, she has no darkness in her heart, and yet she created the special nobody Naminé.

What's so interesting about this is, while it's true that Ven might also follow the same principle, I don't necessarily think that he did. When being named, Xemnas saw that his original name was Sora, and thus, he created the name Roxas, on top of the fact that he can use 2 Keyblades (If he were Ven, he'd only be able to use one), one being Sora's, and the other being Ven's from the piece of Ven within him. He also doesn't show any special powers aside from perhaps being able to feel, though Axel and Xion also seem to share this trait. And finally, that Roxas has Sora's memories, and there is no mention of Ven's.

All of this suggests that a piece of Ven may exist within Roxas, as Ven lives on through Sora, but I don't really think that Roxas is a full blown Ven reincarnation.

[SoulOfTheSky]

There is a point in having a Final Fantasy world, especially when it'd be so different and interesting for the series. The characters basically came from their original worlds. Just because they've only had Disney and Original worlds doesn't mean they couldn't include a Final Fantasy one. Sure, it's "not a Final Fantasy game" in the strictest sense, yet the mere inclusion of Final Fantasy characters more than warrants the inclusion of a Final Fantasy world at any point, if you ask me.

Also sort of funny about how you completely ignored or disregarded my post about your Roxas = Ven theory.

There's a few things about it though.

We know Ven can't make a Heartless because he has no darkness in his heart, which would normally mean he can't create a Nobody either, however, if you see Kairi, as a Princess of Heart, she has no darkness in her heart, and yet she created the special nobody Naminé.

What's so interesting about this is, while it's true that Ven might also follow the same principle, I don't necessarily think that he did. When being named, Xemnas saw that his original name was Sora, and thus, he created the name Roxas, on top of the fact that he can use 2 Keyblades (If he were Ven, he'd only be able to use one), one being Sora's, and the other being Ven's from the piece of Ven within him. He also doesn't show any special powers aside from perhaps being able to feel, though Axel and Xion also seem to share this trait. And finally, that Roxas has Sora's memories, and there is no mention of Ven's.

All of this suggests that a piece of Ven may exist within Roxas, as Ven lives on through Sora, but I don't really think that Roxas is a full blown Ven reincarnation.

Oh, Sorry, Lol. I didn't notice the post. xD

Anwhoo, At first I was on your side with this theory, Then I watched the FM trailer, Which made me think about the possibility's. Which are of Course, Ven having parts inside Roxas, Or Ven ''Mixing'' to Sora after his body dissapears. I guess I should of said that I didn't mean Ven was Totally Roxas, but has some ''Mixed'' in their.

You made me remember stuff about Kingdom hearts 1. Lol. Your theory is probably more actual than Mine. The creator sure has his ways of confusing people.

The thing that could be inside Roxas of ven's could be his Feelings. After all, sora does have 2 hearts, (I suppose three, If you count Kairi's for that short amount of time.) Maybe roxas has Half a heart. Idk. I suppose we should wait and see. Maybe this game will explain it all.

[Renteka-bond]

What's with all the hating on the voice actors from BBS, I prefered the voice actors in BBS to in KH1/2 tbh.....

Because Willa had no emotion. While Terra eventually became likeable, Aqua just sounded naggy to me. And I'm not hating on all the Eng VAs, just her. She's the only VA out of the ENTIRE cast that's ever been in KH that I dislike. She does have her moments, I'll admit, but I can't accept just moments.I don't care if she even likes/cares about the material, at least put some effort into it.

But I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt because maybe this was her first VA work. I can understand that. But, if she doesn't shape up for BBS2, I won't be saddened to see her go.

And No Soul, just having FF characters isn't enough, especially when the last 3 games have had a total of 3, and 2 of which were repeats. The game is supposed to be a Disney/Square(or FF) mix, but other than the spells, there's hardly any FF in the game. I love the disney, don't get me wrong, but would some more FF characters/references hurt too much?

Also, your argument is extremely easy to twist; It's not a Disney game, It's Kingdom Hearts.

[Viva L'Empereur]

Renteka brings forth very logical and sound arguments, but from my point of view they just cheapen the FF characters anyways by including them (Setzer and Vivi being good examples). They never seem to really fit well into these games and although I wouldn't completely mind a FF world, I think there's still plenty of Disney worlds to draw from.

[Ghurdrich]

Oddly enough, I kinda think Setzer and Vivi were the only FF characters they didn't fuck around with too much. (I guess maybe Fuujin and Raijin too, but what's to fuck with when it comes to those guys?)