[Zidane Tribal: A guide on the broken tiered monkey boy- Guide Discussion]

[Mirsa]

I don't know how you get that impression of Cloud

-Zidane hovering over cloud
-Zidane decides to go in for a swift attack
-Cloud player flinches out of panic and either Double Cut or Block to counter the Swift Attack


And all the while Cloud is only running around on the ground in circles...

That's the impression I get of a turtle cloud vs zidane



But really...Zidane's wall combos r not infinites and Idk y...Swift attack links with Meo Twister and I idk y...almost every attack he has dodge cancels into another...hence making dc combos broken because not everyone can do it as easily as Zidane can...

I'll wait for the guide to come back up to post more..

[Pifreak]

I doubt he has, but in his defense your guide never mentions it is for PvP use and not general use. You should probably clear that up, you don't really have a specific mission statement or anything of the sort.

And that I will. In bold and large size font.

Also, (@TKG): I put builds in the guide because a lot of people still like to play with gear, at least the people I've played. I don't really see many who want to play with KAoS rules, though. o.O (Eh, maybe because most people I play are pretty bad)

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One last thing, don't expect the guide to be updated soon. I have tons of schoolwork to do, and can't really find time for it. Sorry people.

EDIT: I edited the guide slightly. I didn't want to start on my homework just yet. Mainly on the moves of SI, Vortex, and Tempest. Also added a-ther's little Zidane flowchart.

[Spiritreapr]

oh, nvm, i was lookin at the one on the ground, i havent tested the on in the air much

[HellianRose]

Cloud is the biggest telegraphing whore in Dissidia. He is forced to turtle until he goes Ex Mode. No disrespect was intended as I use Cloud myself.

Try to learn the majority of Zidane's DC combos then try an Attack Build. It is pretty much an auto-break build for Zidane if the opponent is anywhere near their base bravery. This is with proper armor, accessories, etc.

I know the Exp builds are frowned upon. I should have mentioned it myself. Sorry about that.

The reply to SA was extremely uncalled for and very arrogant. It is also an opinion based soley on preferance and playstyle. If I took your attitude, I could say "I'm so good I don't need SA". However, I will not. My Attack Zidane utilizes Storm Impulse, Tempest, and Vortex for his aerial setup to fully abuse his DC combos. Rumble Rush is his only ground attack, which is use for countering and setting up his DC combos as well. I rush while in the air and turtle if, for whatever the heck reason, I'm on the ground.

[axeeeeL]

solely based on preference and playstyle? if you're trying to purposely hinder yourself, then sure, you could call it preference. i can tell you right now that you're not a good zidane if you seriously don't think SA is even worth it

and kgen quoted your swift attack statement btw, which i think is hilarious...lmfao

[Pifreak]

Cloud is the biggest telegraphing whore in Dissidia. He is forced to turtle until he goes Ex Mode. No disrespect was intended as I use Cloud myself.

Try to learn the majority of Zidane's DC combos then try an Attack Build. It is pretty much an auto-break build for Zidane if the opponent is anywhere near their base bravery. This is with proper armor, accessories, etc.

I know the Exp builds are frowned upon. I should have mentioned it myself. Sorry about that.

The reply to SA was extremely uncalled for and very arrogant. It is also an opinion based soley on preferance and playstyle. If I took your attitude, I could say "I'm so good I don't need SA". However, I will not. My Attack Zidane utilizes Storm Impulse, Tempest, and Vortex for his aerial setup to fully abuse his DC combos. Rumble Rush is his only ground attack, which is use for countering and setting up his DC combos as well. I rush while in the air and turtle if, for whatever the heck reason, I'm on the ground.

(Sorry, I'm too lazy to break this quote into fragments, so I'll just space my response out)

Yes, you're right about Cloud being a big turtle. Still, it doesn't help much against many characters. And..I can't pull anything out of my mind right now about this matter.

Believe me if you want, Zidane's game ISN'T based on combo-ing for gather massive brave. It requires you to block or punish a really laggy attack for you to start a combo. It isn't a viable strategy, since most people will be smarter than that to let Zidane inflict break status on them. Zidane will be the one near base BRV nearly ALL the time, so that's why you need a strong EX build to save his ass.

Haha, EXP to BRV? I used that build in my early online experiences, and it didn't work 90% of the time. Shame on me.

Lastly, if you're not using SA, you're not going to win any online battles, given that the person isn't extremely horrible. Plus, SnL will rape Zidane if he doesn't have SA. And axeeeeL is like that. Get used to it. >_<