Cloud of Darkness impressions, findings and discussion

**HYNE** · 03-03-2011 10:16 AM

She feels overall better now.

0-Form was supposed to be nerfed but I didn't notice it yet (I have some weird feelings about the startup though). I counted frames in replay editor and they turned out to be 30. I will recheck and compare Dissidia and Dissidia 012 0-Forms until I am certain of the change.

Feint's projectile is faster; couldn't shake off the impression of longer range too. It's wonderful.

Currently I'm checking out the possibility of Hate 3/Pain 3 -> Anti-Air (outside of EX Mode). Hate 3 -> AA sometimes succeeds, sometimes it doesn't. Had a feeling it depended on timing. Pain 3 -> AA works every time though.

**Kraid** · 03-03-2011 01:02 PM

Hate 3 and Pain 3 do indeed work outside of Ex-Mode.

Loving Hate 2 as well. Not very powerful however but a good pressure tool.

Tentacles of Scorn I'm still testing. I feel however in Ex-Mode she has Aura Ball combos with Scorn but I'm not sure. (She would definitely has 0-Form combos if it wasn't for the increase start up time.)

Ex-Mode is horrible for CoD. Her cooldown time on Anti-Air and Wrath have been increased in Ex-Mode to a point where I feel she doesn't even HAVE Null Particle Beam anymore.

0-Form start up and Tracking is really quite horrible. Try using a 0-Form in the face of an opponent and you can see how slow it tracks now compared to it previously. Also you can't Wrath as easily in Ex-Mode while doing this meaning less punishment game for CoD.

Fusillade I feel goes farther (Like the original JPN Fusillade) PLUS you can move a slight bit while doing it. Has the move been redeemed? We'll see. However it does knock an opponent as far upwards as it possibly could out side of CoD's range completely. Ceiling/Corner Combos could be doable however.

Long Range I'm still testing. However again like Fusillade you can now move during Long Range start up. This is a good change again.

Wide Angle for Most Improved Move in Dissidia (just above Fusillade?) I don't know if it goes upwards like in Prologus BUT the speed and distance this move now goes is certainly better. However I would STILL not use it as I feel it still can be predictable (Just like Fusillade.)

Feint has dodge frames now on attack. Can't go FEINTFEINTFEINTFEINTFEINT like you could in Dissidia with Ex-Mode.

Because Cooldown increase on Anti-Air, Anti-Air no longer can be protected by Wrath like 0-Form can so less punishment games for greedy players =/

Wrath's Cooldown has also increased while in Ex-Mode. Beforre you could be like WRATHWRATHWRATHWRATH. Now it's like Wrath...... Wrath.... Wrath. It's really slow and I feel there is no cooldown really. Wrath knocks characters up REALLY high now. If Corner/Ceiling Combos work with it is still to be tested.

She seems to be faster with some attacks. Like it seems she can now combo stuff outside of Ex-Mode a lot easier. But the increase cooldown time on her attacks in Ex-Mode has really killed her for me actually. I still enjoy playing as her but I loved her Ex-mode so much in Dissidia (It's what made her fun.) But I feel as if now she has no real potential mind games in Ex-Mode.

**HYNE** · 03-03-2011 01:10 PM

Haven't tried her EX mode yet at all, but that sounds horrible.

Unnecessary nerfs on her HP game in order to get better BRV game and whatnot. I've noticed cooldown increase on Anti-Air as well, but wasn't 100% sure.

I'll be looking into her EX Mode shortly.

**Kurayami** · 03-06-2011 10:59 AM

You can combo Hate 3 into Wide Angle too, but they have to be a certain distance away.

**Northy** · 03-08-2011 11:42 AM

Can you guys post some gameplay of CoD? I'd really appreciate if you would show her new moves and Ex-Mode.

**CosmicJR13** · 03-08-2011 06:35 PM

Yeah i wanna see some gameplay please

and, what are the variations of Tentacles of Scorn??

I know(think) that Hate is:
1. Big swipe in front of her with her two tentacles, can be blocked(?), wall rush(?)
2.Spinning tentacles of death, guard stagger, absorb(?) wallrush
3.Big purple ball, multi hit, guard stagger

also, Tent. of Hate is for both Ground and Air, right??
Is Tent. of Scorn only for air??

**Hende** · 03-10-2011 03:16 AM

No Ex-Mode though.

**Kraid** · 03-10-2011 02:37 PM

Guys: Don't make the same mistake I did and forget Ground Dash. It's ESSENTIAL for Cloud of Darkness.
Dash in and get that Tentacle of Hate 2 on ANYONE you can. This can be really useful to do against characters such as Firion and others who can easily zone you out (even with the help off Wrath.)

**CosmicJR13** · 03-10-2011 06:10 PM

I love what u said Kraid, and I love Tent. of Hate 2, It looks like such a safe move to use, it guard staggers, it has absorb, covers a nice area... Isn't there anything bad about this attack??

Wide angle still looks easily dodgeable, Should it still be equipped for combos??

**Hella-Bright** · 03-10-2011 06:21 PM

Tenticle of Hate 3 can combo into Anti air if you are close enough, I usually do it after an assist so it'll be close enough and I can do alot more damage.

Personally I stick with the old set up
O: Wrath
<O: Anti-air
O>: Feint

I don't find much use for WA and LR, though the changes to WA are pretty snazy