Kain Build/Moveset Discussion

[SolidSok]

I can tell this is a Funphile Build. KID! If you really want to destroy your opponent like a REAL MAN, you can use the following build located at Destructive Trolling Build by Trolling Build Corp. Trust me that you can still modify mine to your own taste but keep in mind what the above people advise you to do.

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[SpryStrikerTidus]

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[Kurayami]

He secretly meant THIS.

[Hulft]

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[Icarus]

I'll try lufenian's set.. and i'm telling you what i do think about.
I would have done better choices if I had a PS3 and ad-hoc access to have some online matches.. And by the way, thanks everyone for the tips

[Samubrewl]

I like used Firion & Cecil in Dissidia 013 but i like Spears and FFIV history, them i decided used Kain but his low Tier is dificult to win and i helped to good build to use.
This is my Build.
Any changes?
Extra ab.---> Master H.Armor, Exp. to Hp, counteratack, Sneak atack, D. Counteratack.
In image after summon Op. changed by 50% or minus (player)

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[Kaiser-Rexatron]

I would recommend equipping him with his exclusive and the Judgment of Lufenia set. His exclusive, Highwind, gives him some additional assist gauge duration and the Back to the Wall ability. And I think you'll find more general use out of Judgment of Lufenia with its extra assist depletion, than the Adamant set. The extra evasion movement on Adamant Chains will probably end up putting you out of punishing range, especially if you've already got the normal midair evasion boost ability. I also think Dragon Fang is more useful than Gungnir, since it's a single hitter, and if you want to BRV-rape your opponent, you can just use Rising Dive or Sky Rave.

[Dart]

Well said, Kaiser. Although, Kain benefits from Seal of Lufenia much more than Judgment. The reasoning for this are the tedious Ex builds that currently rule the meta, so ex depletion is top priority. Also, Kain can maintain a 5.3 multiplier with ease. This means that when he lands a Jump+wallrush, you'll deplete a full bar of assist, and just enough to drain a bit out from the other as well, allowing you to call on an inescapable Kuja assist. Lufenian Dirk grants Kain +1 attack to pack an even bigger punch in his amazing damage output, basically allowing one Rising Drive, or Sky Rave to easily break the opponent. Example of a train wreck build.

[Kaiser-Rexatron]

Thanks, Dart! Correct me if I'm wrong, but does Kain not need any Lore abilities to run Seal? My thoughts behind using the Judgment set were hampering attempts at assist punishing Kain's attacks. I somewhat recall some discussion here talking about Kain's BRV attacks being pretty assist punishable. Though, I lack any PvP experience that confirms this, sadly.

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EDIT: Checked myself, and found that Kain indeed needs Lores for Seal. Not incredibly important, but can be an issue if people like placing their CP elsewhere.
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I'm also wondering about the Pre-Guard booster you've got there. Does it deactivate after dash feinting, or is the block-cancel window small enough that the game wouldn't register it? :0

[Samubrewl]

He can´t Dirk and Headband but can Gaunlet only need Headband lore.
I don´t like SbS is powerfull but i lose Lancet and give free ex force to enemy.
Pre guard is good idea, but hiper ring to Zephir is good vs Spamers (Kain dodge in timming Jump).
No lance barrage? Sky rave is easy to dodge i like more Gungir to turtles.
Thanks for the ideas.