Matchup discussion

[Enuo]

I am just here to say that punishing her dodge with Kuja assist won't work because Ulti will use lance. And uncharged lance is actually quick enough to lock Kuja.
Nothing more :3

Not if you null it with RP first. But yes, you have a point. At least you're preventing her from using GA though and that's the real point of it all.

[Kurayami]

Not if you null it with RP first. But yes, you have a point. At least you're preventing her from using GA though and that's the real point of it all.

Cherub is saying that Ulty can cover her dodges with Uncharged Lance to prevent Kuja assist from punishing them. You wont have time to null a 13 frame poke with RP before it locks Kuja.

[kewldude475]

Not if you null it with RP first. But yes, you have a point. At least you're preventing her from using GA though and that's the real point of it all.

Wait, wut. Knight's Lance>Reverse Polarity.

Cherub is saying that Ulty can cover her dodges with Uncharged Lance to prevent Kuja assist from punishing them. You wont have time to null a 13 frame poke with RP before it locks Kuja.

That was an extra point Cherub was making I believe. He's saying Ulty will camp in charged lance.

[Kurayami]

That was an extra point Cherub was making I believe. He's saying Ulty will camp in charged lance.

If you force her to dodge out of Lance she wont be in Lance anymore though, will she. Using a move such as Black Hole can force Ulty out of Lance, which is when you can try to dodge punish her, but uncharged Lance makes that harder.

[kewldude475]

If you force her to dodge out of Lance she wont be in Lance anymore though, will she. Using a move such as Black Hole can force Ulty out of Lance, which is when you can try to dodge punish her, but uncharged Lance makes that harder.

I'm not really interested in theory fighting here but even if Exdeath does get her out of lance, what good will that do when she can camp for two bars or assist punish it.

[Kurayami]

I'm not really interested in theory fighting here but even if Exdeath does get her out of lance, what good will that do when she can camp for two bars or assist punish it.

Yes, that's the whole point being made here. Even if Exdeath forces her to dodge out of Lance she still has other options such as using uncharged Lance to lock attempted assist punishes and camping for assist herself.

[Cherub]

Kurayami is right ^^ that was basically what I wanted to say.
I'd say more about the MU here, though I don't have much experience vs Exdeath.

[Mericus]

I am just here to say that punishing her dodge with Kuja assist won't work because Ulti will use lance. And uncharged lance is actually quick enough to lock Kuja.
Nothing more :3

I learned this lesson a long time ago against Ultima's lol( oh god.. every time I tried lol ).

I wouldn't count on Kuja to make the opening, GA is a silly fast camping tool, and she will most likely have 2 bars, thus giving EX to an MU you don't want to be giving EX to.

EDIT: also I'm sorry if I came across as being "hostile", I'm only trying to contribute information/perspective in hopes of helping us all to further understand the game. :(

[Setzer Gabbiani]

I have problems connecting the wall rush of RP with Aerith as his assist. What I can do to make this not happen to me?

[RavenCarver]

If you plan on using Aerith combos from Wallrushes, then you need to call the Aerith assist just prior to the wallrush, not after. this is true of all characters, not just Exdeath.

Given, the timing of this from RP can be tricky, but if you KNOW you will land RP and it will wallrush, then call Aerith right before you do hit with RP.