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    Quote Originally Posted by -xKiiNgZoNex- View Post
    My list:

    Sephiroth: Due to using Watera as a tool for pressure, using Shadow Flare while Lightning is casting Watera makes Light pressured instead, that may risk her of being hit either Seph's attack or a dodge punish from an assist. Blizzara makes it count though, you need him to be close to you, not the other way around.

    Gabranth: Your hater is merely an annoyance against Light. Much like Golbez, without assist, you can handle him, but you can be screwed really with his Vortex of Judgment deflecting Light's Watera or protecting himself from Blizzara. Commando-type is one option, but when Gabranth runs out of EX, Blizzara is your best friend.

    Exdeath: You don't really need a good reason, because a good player that handles Exdeath well is sure enough to either keep you away in extreme care not to be blocked right away, or brought in because of Maelstrom (AND then blocked shortly thereafter). Not only Exdeath is good at blocking and beating opponents out of their misery, but is good at covering distances as well.

    Golbez: As a Golbez player, I'm pretty surprised that Lightning players here have a hard time dealing with Golbez. Given that his moves are good enough of grounding Lightning, he can take care of her well, but, staying literally above Golbez, you'll only get to worry about Sector Ray, AND Nightglow when you try to attack him in the ground when you think he is caught off-guard. Bringing him to air and staying above him, is your greatest bet.
    I have no good reason to get close to lightning as sephiroth. I usually just spam sf until she angrily rushes me which leaves her wide open.



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    Feral Chaos is what I have heard and could see from matches I have played against Lightning with when using Feral Chaos. Is it a bad match-up for her? Not really sure, I don't really test enough to be able to say it is. But I'd put my money on it that he's a difficult match-up at the least for her.

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    Sephiroth. Casting Watera=Getting hit by SF, and Thunderfall has too much startup to bock the flares. She can't really heal as SF stops that. Though you can assist build with Thundaga (and dodge) then punish Sephy as soon as he casts it.

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    Also Golbez. I fought Raikuden here a while before the PSN outage, and even with full health, he got my health low with Golbez. I justt seem to have a hard time fighting him with Light,
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingdomOblivion View Post
    Sephiroth. Casting Watera=Getting hit by SF, and Thunderfall has too much startup to bock the flares. She can't really heal as SF stops that. Though you can assist build with Thundaga (and dodge) then punish Sephy as soon as he casts it.

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    Also Golbez. I fought Raikuden here a while before the PSN outage, and even with full health, he got my health low with Golbez. I justt seem to have a hard time fighting him with Light,
    Won't sephirth build assist faster than light? And while she's performing your strategy he can punish a dodge with kuja or jecht assist. From all the assists I've dodged, the time to punish a shadow flare is very strict and if he's halfway through the move the assist move hit him since he can dodge cancel before the assist hits him.

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    Exdeath is anyones toughest opponent if you MASTER his omni block. It depends on how good you are with your timing. If you get it right all the time Light cant touch you

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    Quote Originally Posted by seraph sephiroth View Post
    Won't sephirth build assist faster than light? And while she's performing your strategy he can punish a dodge with kuja or jecht assist. From all the assists I've dodged, the time to punish a shadow flare is very strict and if he's halfway through the move the assist move hit him since he can dodge cancel before the assist hits him.
    However chances are high that your assist will be hit by the THUNDAGAAHHH. Also, I rarely ever see SF punished. Too fast.
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    I'm pretty sure your attacks don't hit your own assist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingdomOblivion View Post
    However chances are high that your assist will be hit by the THUNDAGAAHHH. Also, I rarely ever see SF punished. Too fast.
    Punishing Shadow Flare isn't hard, you just need to know when it'll be casted and summon your Assist the very moment if not before he casts it. The average Sephiroth falls ill to the trend of Shadow Flare spam with dodge cancels inbetween, so if you can't punish SF itself, just punish the dodge that will inevitably follow. Now punishing a player who uses Sephiroth in a more skilled manner (less SF spam, more tactical BRV game) and punishing them becomes more difficult.

    And, as stated in the post above, you can't Assist Lock yourself. The very notion is...ridiculous and funny to imagine.
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    Huh? I meant assist lock the other character. There's absolutely no chance of assist locking yourself and tat's definitely not what I meant.

    As for the SF punish thing, I meant for normal attacks, now assist punishing SF (especially after the dodge cancels like you said) was a good idea. The only problem is building assist. Got any tips for hat? Since this is Lightning thread I will say that the only way I can think of is casting Thundaga over and over again. Then what I'm saying is that if the person tries to assist punish your dodge, they may get hit by the Thundaga cast.
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    But the hypothetical Sephiroth is using Shadow Flare, not Assist, so that makes no sense.

    I have no idea what Thundaga does to Shadow Flare. I am assuming not much.

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